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Cristina Manzotti  Identity Verified
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Mar 21

Un progetto dall'India dove offrono 0.01 cent a parola. Offrono una machine translation (come se ci servisse a qualcosa...). Ma quanto è accettabile una proposta simile? Quante parole tradutece all'ora?

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Edoardo Lorenzo Corda  Identity Verified
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Campanello d'allarme Mar 21

1) 50 million project!!
2) machine translation
3) agenzia Indiana (che normalmente significa tariffe molto basse)

Conclusione: avanti il prossimo!

In risposta alla tua domanda: dipende dalla tipologia del testo. In generale, tra le 2000 e 3000 al giorno (400 all'ora in media).


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Robert Rietvelt  Identity Verified
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A joke? Mar 21

I don't speak Italian, but what I do understand of it is that 0.01 p/w is a joke, even for India.

Fabio Descalzi
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Angie Garbarino
 

DZiW
Ukraine
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No joke: white-collar crime industry averages Mar 21

 Considering the infamous repetition/internal/fuzzy-match discounts and other sly ploys to abuse CAT/PEMT-operators, now it's about the real rates--even for decent language specialists in developed country too. I know no other industry where the vast majority of businesspersons is routinely tricked into and forced to give aways over 80% of the price. That's why I a little worry about the future of 'translation'.


 Meanwhile, I can't help wondering, when another "smart businessman" is so proud he translated a $1000 worth project for some $55... On the other hand, so many vivid examples reveal that MT may be not so bad, perhaps.

Everyone gets exactly what deserves)

[Edited at 2019-03-21 15:30 GMT]


missdutch
 

Edoardo Lorenzo Corda  Identity Verified
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Sad but true Mar 21

0.01 per word (they did not mention the currency)

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[Edited at 2019-03-21 23:14 GMT]


 

Colleen Roach, PhD  Identity Verified
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Not a joke...sadly Mar 21

Robert Rietvelt wrote:

I don't speak Italian, but what I do understand of it is that 0.01 p/w is a joke, even for India.



Not really a joke. I saw fairly recently on Upworks an ad for rates below 0.01 by an outsourcer who had been active on that site (hence successfully able to recruit translators) for some time.


 

Daniel Frisano
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È tutto relativo Mar 21

Penso che potrebbe essere accettabile per chi vive in un paese dove il reddito pro capite è 7000 dollari l'anno. Con 13-14.000 parole a settimana (cifra non certo impossibile da raggiungere) si arriva più o meno a questi livelli, se quei 0,01 a parola sono dollari. E in altri paesi del subcontinente il reddito medio è ancora più basso.

Ovvio che per noi è impensabile. Anche se mi par di ricordare di avere lavorato a 0.025 moooolti anni fa, quando prendevo tutto quello che arrivava pur di guadagnare la pagnotta.


missdutch
 

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Interesting Mar 21

I saw another ad here by a Chinese translation agency that offered 1 to 2 cents per word, and the most bids were placed from Italy (ahead of Turkey or Ukraine).

Tom in London
missdutch
 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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Pairs Mar 21

Baran Keki wrote:
the most bids were placed from Italy (ahead of Turkey or Ukraine).


If the pair was eng to ita this is normal


 

Baran Keki  Identity Verified
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How can it be normal? Mar 21

Angie Garbarino wrote:


If the pair was eng to ita this is normal

Yes it was, but how on earth can it be normal for an EU country? I doubt Italy could be compared to Turkey or Ukraine in terms of standard of living?


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Mirko Mainardi  Identity Verified
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"Normal" Mar 21

Angie Garbarino wrote:

Baran Keki wrote:
the most bids were placed from Italy (ahead of Turkey or Ukraine).


If the pair was eng to ita this is normal


"Normal" in a matter-of-fact sense (sadly), not in a "that's OK" sense, as I highly doubt it's "normal" that so many people are willing to work for next to nothing (especially in a Western country)...


missdutch
Angie Garbarino
 

Michael Newton  Identity Verified
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0.01 per word Mar 22

Progetti dall'India? Da evitare assolutamente!

Tom in London
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mariealpilles  Identity Verified
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0,01 per word Mar 22

It is probably $ as well ! If people accept such rubbish, it is there problem. There are more and more companies, even in Europe (Belgium, more specifically) that want you to only translate a few sentences in a document, etc.. For me that is so unprofessional that I cannot even understand how such companies are allowed to advertise and post here. On top ofthat they tell you how long they expect it take you (!!!) and pay according to that estimation.
If people just ran away from such unprofessional posters they would soon lose their business unless their clients are only interested in getting the job done, but do not care about the quality, in which case there is no need to have a document translated.


 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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Undercut the rates (€ 0.0075) ... Mar 22

... take the job, don´t deliver and outsourcers of these kind will disappear ...
I know nobody will act that way and it is considered unethical, but sometimes you should fight fire with fire. Proposed measures will only work when we would have an organiced community of freelance translators. I´m optimistic that our valuable and well paid translators associations worldwide will soon cooperate and take appropriate measures against these rates ...

[Bearbeitet am 2019-03-22 07:47 GMT]


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Baran Keki  Identity Verified
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Honor the contract Mar 22

Matthias Brombach wrote:

... take the job, don´t deliver and outsourcers of these kind will disappear ...


[Bearbeitet am 2019-03-22 07:47 GMT]

Just honor the contract and the deadline but send a completely machine translated text instead. That way they'll 'get the best bang for their buck' until their client realizes the rubbish they sent in. And then hopefully losing their clients, they'll go out of business.


 
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