useful hints to improve my search technique on the web
Thread poster: stromfi
stromfi
English
May 4, 2005

I've just finished and sent off a translation, which, by the way, was my first ever. While I worked on the document, I did ask for some help from Kudoz. I got great answers in no time, which I was really grateful for. I was very impressed that some people even gave me a link or two, to show me how the given word is used/found in documents written in English. How could I improve my search technique to get to the right webpages myself? I really felt like an absolute idiot when I got a remark saying that there were "houndreds of thousands of webpages" on a word I wasn't sure how to translate. Well, I got the message and now I'd like to ask any of you if you had some good tips.

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Patrick Yancey  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 11:36
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Googling May 4, 2005

Well stromfi, I don't know what you know already but here are a couple of my favorite techniques:

- Search for a bilingual website: type in the term or phrase in hte google bar (put phrases in quotation marks ("xxx") so that it doesn't search for each word separately), then leave a space and type in "english" in the google bar as well. Now click on search (or hit return). Hopefully this will find you a website with the source word on it that has an "english" option. Use CRTL-F to find the source word in the website, or select cached viewing.

- If you suspect you know part of the term or phrase, then do type in the source term/phrase, leave a space, and then type in the part that you think you know. For instance, I might type in ["vávula de escape" valve] and hit search. This will find a website with the text "vávula de escape (exhaust valve)".

The images option in google is also sometimes useful for seeing what the source text is talking about.

Hope those were helpful!

-Quine


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xxxLia Fail  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 16:36
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see how-tos May 4, 2005

http://www.proz.com/howto

Hi Stromfi

Have a look at a couple of articles here on web searching, to start you off.

However, I never learnt as much about searching as the during the few months I got 'addicted' to answering ProZ questions in my early days using the site.

Try answering questions, and see how other people answer questions and win points.... follow up their links, etc, to see what's out there.

As for searching:

Search your source language sites first of all, if you don't know what a word means (you might even discover that it doesn't exist!)

This will give you clues to meaning. It might also inspire you with other key words to enter with your term. And you start building a mental picture of what you are looking for.

If you have a couple of possible translations, enter them with key words from your text, and assess the possible 'rightness' of each.

Best of luck:-)


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Ciprian Dumea  Identity Verified
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a link which might help May 4, 2005

Hello. You might try the following link - one of the best I know:

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Internet/FindInfo.html

Good luck !
Ciprian.

PS. The best way to learn is, of course, to read tutorials and then practice, practice, practice.


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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
Czech Republic
Local time: 16:36
English to Czech
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Google May 4, 2005

This could help you:

Google - Basics of Search, Advanced Search


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stromfi
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You are a GREAT bunch! May 5, 2005

Thanks a lot for all your awsome tips and hints. I will follow up on each and every one of them. As a matter of fact, I will do it right now. Bye!!!

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BlueTalis
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Mental picture May 10, 2005


It might also inspire you with other key words to enter with your term. And you start building a mental picture of what you are looking for.


I think that is most important: That you "see and feel" what the term really means. Because that will make it much more easy for you to find the correct translation: If you "see" the concept of the original and it agrees with the concept you "see" when you read the translated term in a googled "original" context - then you have the right translation.

Do you see what I mean? Or have I failed in making my mental picture visible?
Hope not!


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