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Bye, bye Wikipedia... (due to eye strain)
Thread poster: Pablo Bouvier

Pablo Bouvier  Identity Verified
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May 21, 2010

One of my information sources on certain topics has been the Wikipedia for many years. However, today when accessing this one, I found a new almost unreadable format, unless you have a microscope or at least a magnifying glass..

Today wikipedia is unreadable and unhealthy, since it requires a considerable viewing effort from the users. It can be argued that I may always increase the letter size by pressing CTRL + plus in my browser. But, why should I waste my time doing this each time I need to see something?. I am not used to lose my time with such issues. For me, if it is useless it goes to the wastebin and so will do I with the wikipedia as information source. Sic transit gloria mundi


 

Jennifer Barnett  Identity Verified
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not so fast May 21, 2010

Oh come on! It's Friday evening and you're feeling tired and grumpy. Have a nice weekend and try again Monday.

 

Katerina Athanasaki  Identity Verified
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A sight for sore eyes! May 21, 2010

Allow me to introduce you to Readability. Try it and you'll thank me forever. icon_wink.gif

 

Tony M  Identity Verified
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Firefox May 21, 2010

If you use Mozilla Firefox as your browser, you have the option to zoom in to virtually any page, so you can adjust the display to suit the readability of any page you visit.

 

Sergei Leshchinsky  Identity Verified
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Use FIreFox... May 21, 2010

It remembers and recalls the scale for each site you visited...

Pablo Bouvier wrote:
why should I waste my time doing this each time I need to see something


icon_wink.gif


 

FarkasAndras
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Well May 21, 2010

You could do that (ignore Wikipedia in the future), or you could register at Wikipedia and get the old format back.

 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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I see no difference May 21, 2010

Pablo Bouvier wrote:
However, today when accessing this one, I found a new almost unreadable format, unless you have a microscope or at least a magnifying glass.


You seem to say that the font is now smaller. It seems the same size to me as it's always been. Could it be a problem with your browser? I'm using Opera 10.x on Windows XP.


 

Pablo Bouvier  Identity Verified
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Bye, bye Wikipedia... (due to eye strain) May 21, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:

Pablo Bouvier wrote:
However, today when accessing this one, I found a new almost unreadable format, unless you have a microscope or at least a magnifying glass.


You seem to say that the font is now smaller. It seems the same size to me as it's always been. Could it be a problem with your browser? I'm using Opera 10.x on Windows XP.



@Hi, Samuel:

no, it wasn't a problem with my Firefox 3.6.3 browser. Maybe the changes they have made were country specific, but I am not alone. You may read more here and at the next topics about the new Wikipedia's microscopic font size.


@Hi, to all other colleagues,

first of all, many thanks for all your helpful tips ans specially to Katerina. I have set up a readable font size now on my Firefox browser , but I guess I will go back to the older wikipedia format. Have a nice weekend!

From the grumpy icon_biggrin.gif

[Editado a las 2010-05-21 20:47 GMT]


 

madak  Identity Verified
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But you're still here? May 21, 2010

Pablo Bouvier wrote:

Bye, bye Wikipedia... (due to eye strain)


Even though forum postings have a less than optimal text width? Typographically, optimal text width is accepted as 55-65 characters. The reason behind this? You can keep both head and eyes still while reading without the font size having to be reduced to unreadability.

Now, count the characters in these forum postings (whilst moving your head/eyes) and weep/cry.


 

Sergei Leshchinsky  Identity Verified
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Bye-buy, but keep aside... ;D May 21, 2010

Nobody and nothing is perfect, but this resource is of some value... I hope you will have a rest during he weekend and then you will use you flexibility of mind and get accustomed or customize...

Stop grumping!icon_biggrin.gif


 

Daniel García
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Turn off the new features May 21, 2010

Apparently, it is possible to disable the new featurres:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UsabilityInitiativePrefSwitch

I hope this helps.

Daniel


 

opolt  Identity Verified
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Font minimum size May 21, 2010

On my browser I didn't note any change in that regard. But it lets me set a minimum font size for all sites. Check out this config option. I don't use Firefox, but I have it installed, and the option is there under Content | Fonts & Colors | Advanced

Cheers


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Anti-aliasing, perhaps? May 22, 2010

Pablo Bouvier wrote:
No, it wasn't a problem with my Firefox 3.6.3 browser. Maybe the changes they have made were country specific...


Maybe it's system specific. I've seen one or two screenshots of the new layout, and the font on it appears to be an anti-aliased font. I don't use anti-aliased fonts in any of my programs. Perhaps the Wikipedia CSS's fall-back font is bigger than its primary one.

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By the way, here is a screenshot taken by Wikipedia staff to show what it looks like in their browsers:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/4/44/Logo_new-vector_screenshot.png
The font on the screenshot doesn't look particularly small to me. In fact, to my eyes, all the letters look like they're in semi-bold font and there's too little white space on the page (but that's what you get when you use anti-aliased fonts). Here's what the main page looks like on my computer:
http://leuce.com/tempfile/wikipedia_samuelmurray_view.png



[Edited at 2010-05-22 06:44 GMT]


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Madeleine May 22, 2010

Madeleine MacRae Klintebo wrote:
Even though forum postings have a less than optimal text width? Typographically, optimal text width is accepted as 55-65 characters. ... Now, count the characters in these forum postings (whilst moving your head/eyes) and weep/cry.


I counted. 79 characters. And I don't move my head.

Only 79, you may ask? Well, you can increase the number of characters by increasing the width of your browser (or, you can maximise your browser, if you have a wide screen). I don't use my browser maximised -- I have a 1400x1050 screen but my browser window is only 1000x700. Here's what it looks like for me:

http://leuce.com/tempfile/prozforum_samuelmurray_view.png

What does the ProZ.com forum look like for you? Oh, and how far is your head from your screen? My screen is so far from my head that if I stretch out my arm fully, and make a fist, my fist doesn't touch the screen. And I'm not far-sighted. If you don't like moving your head from side to side while reading the forum posts, perhaps you should move back a little...?


 

Kjersti Farrier  Identity Verified
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I like this one - Thank you for sharing it! May 22, 2010

Katerina Athanasaki wrote:

Allow me to introduce you to Readability. Try it and you'll thank me forever. icon_wink.gif


 
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