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WF Pandora's Box settings with English as target language
Thread poster: Nicholas Stedman

Nicholas Stedman  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:25
French to English
Jan 15, 2010

WF Pandora's box default settings seem to suit people using English as source language.

Could someone indicate if it is possible to use PB to automatically force the removal of a non-breaking space before :;!? and also force curly double quotes without a non-breaking space in the target segment when these are present in the source segment.
i.e « example » in source segment automatically becomes “example” in target
"for example :" becomes "for example:"

PS I HAVE read the manual and tried to code these changes without success.


 

David Twell  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:25
Member (2008)
French to English
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Exactly my problem too Feb 18, 2010

I wonder if you found a solution to this problem because it is exactly what I am trying to do right now. It's so tedious making these changes manually.

 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 14:25
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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You mean FR? Feb 18, 2010

NR_Stedman wrote:
« example » in source segment should automatically become “example” in target

"for example :" should become "for example:"


1. Did I update your quote above correctly?

2. Are you referring to the FR commands?

3. Silly question: have you removed the underscore?




[Edited at 2010-02-18 13:43 GMT]


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 14:25
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
+ ...
Does this work? Feb 18, 2010

NR_Stedman wrote:
SL: « example »
TL: “example”


This works for me:
FR="(^0171^s)(*)(^s^0187)","^0147\2^0148",/wc/T

Does it work for you? The quotes change when you press Alt+down. If you want the quotes to be changed in the SL, have /S instead of /T. If you want the quotes to be changed as soon as a fuzzy match is found, have /F instead of /T.

SL: "for example :"
TL: "for example:"


This works for me:
FR="(>)(^s)(:)","\1\3",/wc/T

If you want the FR command to also catch instances where the SL does not use a non-breaking space but a normal space, simply create two more FR entries and replace ^s with a space in the command.

Does it work for you?



[Edited at 2010-02-18 14:09 GMT]


 

David Twell  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:25
Member (2008)
French to English
+ ...
It works perfectly! Feb 19, 2010

Thank you very much, Samuel. This is going to save me so much time and hassle in the future!

 

Nicholas Stedman  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:25
French to English
TOPIC STARTER
Still no joy! Feb 21, 2010

Many thanks for coming back to this subject David.

I copy-pasted Samuel's codes into my pandoras box.
For the cases in which the space before the colon is a normal space I erased the ^s and replaced them with a space using my space bar
However I still always get a space in the target segment before a colon.
(The speech marks do change though there is still a space before/after them)

Is this because I use an Azerty (French) keyboard?

[Edited at 2010-02-21 14:39 GMT]


 

Lori Cirefice  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 14:25
French to English
auto-correct list? Feb 21, 2010

NR, perhaps a silly question, but did you turn off the auto-correct feature that adds non-breaking spaces? I believe it's a standard option in French versions of MS Word.

 

Nicholas Stedman  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:25
French to English
TOPIC STARTER
Not a silly question at all! Feb 21, 2010

Thanks Lori
Its not a silly question at all as I have long been wondering if Word overrides Pandora's box.
However I can't find anything in my Italian version of Word (automatic correction options) about spaces before colons and semi-colons
Where is this autocorrect feature?


 

Lori Cirefice  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 14:25
French to English
Word 2007? Feb 21, 2010

Office button - options word - verification tab (my version is French), first button at the top

Older versions of Word, somewhere under Tools / Grammar & spelling (I think!)


 

Nicholas Stedman  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:25
French to English
TOPIC STARTER
No luck here too! Feb 21, 2010

Thanks Lori but I don't seem to have any Word 2007 auto-correct feature that adds spaces before semi colons or colons, speech marks etc.

 

Nicholas Stedman  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:25
French to English
TOPIC STARTER
Thanks everyone Feb 22, 2010

I have last got this working after getting a screen shot from David
I had in fact misunderstood Samuel's tip for normal spaces:
you must put the FR="(>)( )(:)","\1\3",/wc/T code in twice to get Pandora's box to operate.

And for those using a French version of word to get rid of the non-breaking spaces before punctuation marks see
http://www.generation-nt.com/us/answer/nonbreaking-space-before-help-30833602.html


 


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