Is there anyway to print the 2 columns in Wordfast?
Thread poster: Cuauhtemoc Zepeda

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 22:42
English to Spanish
Mar 4, 2011

Is there anyway to print the 2 columns (source and target language) in Wordfast?

Some customers ask for that view in their translated files

Or, is there any CAT tool that does this?


 

Paola Grochi  Identity Verified
Uruguay
Local time: 02:42
English to Spanish
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PlusTools Mar 5, 2011

What you can do is to align the source and the translated document using PlusTools, it's a freeware app you usually download with WordFast. I use it when working with other translators to create a translation memory from their work, for example.
When you align the documents you get a table like the one you want, but you have to revise it.
I think it's easier to do it with unclean or segmented files, though haven't tried yet.


 

NMR (X)
France
Local time: 07:42
French to Dutch
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My opinion Mar 5, 2011

It doesn't exist, but it would be a nice "intermedeate" feature. Have been looking for that too.

It doesn't show the end results however. You can only see the end results when saving the translated file, and compare this one to the original.


 

Alex Lago  Identity Verified
Spain
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English to Spanish
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Just print Mar 5, 2011

If you are working in Wordfast Pro, simply go to File and click on Print, that will print a file with four columns: column ID, source text, target text and the TM Score.

If you are working with Wordfast Classic it is more complicated, you have to either use Tools and follow the procedure Paola mentioned or use this method which I find easier: open your TM in wordpad and copy paste to Excel that will copy the target and source into different columns which are already aligned.


 

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 22:42
English to Spanish
TOPIC STARTER
Thanks, I really appreciate it Mar 5, 2011

Paola Grochi wrote:

What you can do is to align the source and the translated document using PlusTools, it's a freeware app you usually download with WordFast. I use it when working with other translators to create a translation memory from their work, for example.
When you align the documents you get a table like the one you want, but you have to revise it.
I think it's easier to do it with unclean or segmented files, though haven't tried yet.



Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Now, would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?

Best regards.


 

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 22:42
English to Spanish
TOPIC STARTER
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Mar 5, 2011

NMR wrote:

It doesn't exist, but it would be a nice "intermedeate" feature. Have been looking for that too.

It doesn't show the end results however. You can only see the end results when saving the translated file, and compare this one to the original.


Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Now, would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?

Best regards.

[Edited at 2011-03-05 23:01 GMT]


 

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 22:42
English to Spanish
TOPIC STARTER
Thank you very much. Mar 5, 2011

NMR wrote:

It doesn't exist, but it would be a nice "intermedeate" feature. Have been looking for that too.

It doesn't show the end results however. You can only see the end results when saving the translated file, and compare this one to the original.


Thank you very much

Best regards.


 

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 22:42
English to Spanish
TOPIC STARTER
Thanks, I really appreciate your help Mar 5, 2011

Alex Lago wrote:

If you are working in Wordfast Pro, simply go to File and click on Print, that will print a file with four columns: column ID, source text, target text and the TM Score.

If you are working with Wordfast Classic it is more complicated, you have to either use Tools and follow the procedure Paola mentioned or use this method which I find easier: open your TM in wordpad and copy paste to Excel that will copy the target and source into different columns which are already aligned.


Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Now, would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?

Best regards.


 

Lianne van de Ven  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 01:42
Member (2008)
English to Dutch
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How to create bilingual word file 'using' wordfast pro. Mar 6, 2011

-removed- (posted twice)
See below

[Edited at 2011-03-06 05:34 GMT]


 

Lianne van de Ven  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 01:42
Member (2008)
English to Dutch
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How to create bilingual word file 'using' wordfast pro. Mar 6, 2011

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda wrote:

Now, would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?

Best regards.


It's a little bit of work, but I create a bilingual word file by first creating a source-source txml using 'copy source' - in addition to the translated txml.

1) Open txml to be translated
2) Save as ... (name it 'source copy' for example)
3) Use ctrl+alt+insert to copy all source segments into target fields
4) Click 'preview in word' icon or use alt+W. This produces a word file (document A) with all source segments in a table view. Save it.
5) After translation, create a similar word file with the translated segments by using preview or alt+W (dccument B).
6) Now you need to create the bilingual file.
Word for some reason does not copy the columns correctly into a new document. But Excel works.
So, select the column with source segments of doc A and paste it in an new excel file. Paste it in cell B1 and it will automatically paste as a column.
7) Then select the column with target segments of doc B and paste it in excel cell C1. I reserve column A for numbering the segments for easy review, but this is optional.
8) Then select the desired columns in excel and paste it into a new word file, and voila, there is your bilingual word file.

Hope this will work for you.


 

Milan Condak  Identity Verified
Local time: 07:42
English to Czech
PlusToyZ is not CAT but works Mar 6, 2011



Is there anyway to print the 2 columns (source and target language) in Wordfast?

Or, is there any CAT tool that does this?


There are macros in "plustoyz.doc", some macros are for conversions of file format.

http://www.condak.net/tools/plustoyz/2008/cs/convert_bitext.htm

Milan


 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 07:42
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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What do you mean? Mar 6, 2011

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda wrote:
Alex Lago wrote:
Cuauhtemoc Zepeda wrote:
Is there anyway to print the 2 columns (source and target language) in Wordfast?

If you are working in Wordfast Pro, simply go to File and click on Print, that will print a file with four columns: column ID, source text, target text and the TM Score.

Would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?


What do you mean? The file Alex mentions *is* a Word file.


 

Emma Goldsmith  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 07:42
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
printing columns in Studio Mar 6, 2011

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda wrote:

Or, is there any CAT tool that does this?


Yes, you can print out the 2 columns in Studio 2009.
You can also use the XLIFF creator to produce source and target side by side in a table in Word or in Excel. http://www.sdl.com/en/language-technology/partners/sdl-openexchange/AppDetails.aspx?appid=2#tab1


 

Paola Grochi  Identity Verified
Uruguay
Local time: 02:42
English to Spanish
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That's a Word file Mar 7, 2011

Cuauhtemoc Zepeda wrote:

Paola Grochi wrote:

What you can do is to align the source and the translated document using PlusTools, it's a freeware app you usually download with WordFast. I use it when working with other translators to create a translation memory from their work, for example.
When you align the documents you get a table like the one you want, but you have to revise it.
I think it's easier to do it with unclean or segmented files, though haven't tried yet.



Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Now, would there be any way to export this same format to a Word file?

Best regards.




The result is a Word document with a table with 2 columns: source and target.
First open both documents, source and target, then go to PlusTools, Align, and then choose the source and targe file, if they're segmented or not, etc. Press the Align button and then you'll have your table with the source and target segments. Go through it because it's not perfect, and some segments will need to be merged or split, but is a great tool. Save your .doc and you're done!


 


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