I don't want Wordfast to open the previous segment in the same paragraph
Thread poster: Maria Arruti

Maria Arruti  Identity Verified
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Oct 4, 2012

Hi all,

When I close a segment and want to open the next one in the same paragraph, Wordfast opens the last segment I have translated. Is there any way to avoid it? Is it possible?

The reason is that in the texts I am translating, the speaker changes from one language to another at any time, and when I close a segment to change the language pair, then when I open the next one the last segment I have translated in one language pair is also saved in the memory of the other language pair.

My Wordfast version is 5.91i.

Thank you for your help!

Maria


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Dominique Pivard  Identity Verified
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Untranslatable attributes, ForceSegment Oct 4, 2012

Maria Arruti wrote:
When I close a segment and want to open the next one in the same paragraph, Wordfast opens the last segment I have translated. Is there any way to avoid it? Is it possible?

No, that's the way current versions of Wordfast Classic are designed to work.
Maria Arruti wrote:
The reason is that in the texts I am translating, the speaker changes from one language to another at any time, and when I close a segment to change the language pair, then when I open the next one the last segment I have translated in one language pair is also saved in the memory of the other language pair.

If there are portions of texts in your document that don't need to be translated, you can apply an untranslatable attribute to them. Another possibility is to jump over the portion of text not to be translated without closing the session, using the ForceSegment function.
Maria Arruti wrote:
My Wordfast version is 5.91i.

This version is outdated. The latest version is 6.03t.


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Maria Arruti  Identity Verified
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Thanks! Oct 5, 2012

Hello Dominique,

I was afraid Wordfast was configured to work like that.

The text segments that are in another language aren't untranslatable, I have to translate all of them. That's why I have to change the language pair.

Thank you anyway!


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Dominique Pivard  Identity Verified
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ForceSegment Oct 5, 2012

Maria Arruti wrote:
I was afraid Wordfast was configured to work like that.

It hasn't always been so. At some point, Wordfast would always open the segment on which the cursor was located, when in a paragraph and not on the very first segment of the paragraph. Unfortunately, there were many problems with that approach, which is why current versions either open the first segment in the paragraph (if nothing is segmented yet), or the last segmented segment in the paragraph (if something has already be segmented), regardless of where the cursor happens to be.
Maria Arruti wrote:
The text segments that are in another language aren't untranslatable, I have to translate all of them. That's why I have to change the language pair.

OK, in that case you would have to use the ForceSegment function: select (highlight) the portion of text you want to use as a segment and hit Shift+Alt+Down. It works very well and will do exactly what you want.


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Maria Arruti  Identity Verified
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Now it works Oct 5, 2012

It was exactly what I wanted.

Thank you again, Dominique!


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Thanks, Dominique Oct 5, 2012

Dominique Pivard wrote:
It hasn't always been so. At some point, Wordfast would always open the segment on which the cursor was located, when in a paragraph and not on the very first segment of the paragraph. Unfortunately, there were many problems with that approach, which is why current versions either open the first segment in the paragraph (if nothing is segmented yet), or the last segmented segment in the paragraph (if something has already be segmented), regardless of where the cursor happens to be.


Sometimes newer versions of WFC gain some really nice features and sometimes they lose some really nice features. When the new behaviour you described started appearing, I just started using ForceSegment a lot more, and once you're used to it (and you know how to use Ctrl+Shift with your arrow keys), it is actually not a bother to do so.

This is off-topic but possibly related: I love the fact that if my cursor is not inside the segment, and I press Alt+down, WFC does not perform the Alt+down but instead moves my open segment back into view. This is a huge time-saver, especially in longer documents where I often scroll back to check something and then have to find the open segment again.


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Maria Arruti  Identity Verified
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I didn't know that Oct 5, 2012

Samuel Murray wrote:

This is off-topic but possibly related: I love the fact that if my cursor is not inside the segment, and I press Alt+down, WFC does not perform the Alt+down but instead moves my open segment back into view. This is a huge time-saver, especially in longer documents where I often scroll back to check something and then have to find the open segment again.



How do you do it, Samuel? I find it very interesting.

Thank you,

Maria


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