The office seeks the man

Russian translation: не человек выбирает должность, а наоборот, должность выбирает его

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English term or phrase:The office seeks the man, the man doesn't seek the office.
Russian translation:не человек выбирает должность, а наоборот, должность выбирает его
Entered by: Andriy Yasharov

21:27 Dec 3, 2008
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English term or phrase: The office seeks the man
Spencer detected a similar reticence in 1968, a year in which he thinks that Reagan could have won the Republican nomination. "If Reagan had come out in February or March and said, 'I want to be President and I'm going after it,' " says Spencer, "I think he could have taken it away from Nixon, and I told him so. He gave me a great quote, ***'The office seeks the man, the man doesn't seek the office.'*** Maybe now he has decided I was right. I think if there hadn't been Watergate and the Agnew thing that Reagan would probably be the nominee this year."
Alexander Onishko
не человек выбирает должность,
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а наоборот, должность выбирает его
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3 +3не человек выбирает должность,
Andriy Yasharov
4 +1Должность ищет человека, а не человек - должность
Mykhailo Voloshko
4Место само ищет человека, а не человек его выискивает.
Alexandra Taggart
4Не место красит человека, а человек место.
Tatyana Leshkevich
1Налоговый орган ищет человека, а не человек налоговый орган.
Igor Boyko
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the office seeks the man
не человек выбирает должность,


Explanation:
а наоборот, должность выбирает его

Andriy Yasharov
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agree  Igor Boyko
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agree  Mykhailo Voloshko
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agree  Tatiana Lammers
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the office seeks the man
Налоговый орган ищет человека, а не человек налоговый орган.


Explanation:
Кажись, я понял. Тут игра слов.

Do you the office should seek the man?
Joax -- The tax office generally does.
From The Philadelphia Record.
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:BuYd5wLIDykJ:query.nyti...

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Note added at 31 мин (2008-12-03 21:59:11 GMT)
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Перефразируя:

"Представители власти ищут человека, а не человек - представителей власти".

Что-то в этом роде. По крайней мере, в такой трактовке есть логика.

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Note added at 38 мин (2008-12-03 22:05:51 GMT)
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Да, я уже понял, что текст вполне сурьезный :)

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Note added at 47 мин (2008-12-03 22:14:55 GMT)
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Fashioning the New Office
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The first presidents did not "campaign" in the way modern Americans think of a run for the White House. It was regarded as unseemly for a potential president to appear to be seeking the office. Indeed, the myth was general that the office seeks the man. Still, the ferocious jostling for political primacy is an essential ingredient of the office. Lincoln, for example, was pleased to be everybody's second choice at the Republican convention of 1860 in Chicago. He rightly expected that none of his opponents was strong enough to carry the day and that the party would come to him. His appetite for the office was hard to hide; he had said with barely feigned zest: "The taste is in my mouth a little." When Adlai Stevenson was approached for the Democratic nomination in 1952, his first response was, "Let this cup pass." He was not posing as a modest man but rather shrinking from a contest against General Eisenhower, a sure winner.
http://www.novelguide.com/a/discover/prh_01/prh_01_00010.htm...

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Note added at 51 мин (2008-12-03 22:18:51 GMT)
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Вот и логика.
Мавр сделал свое дело :) Спокойной всем ночи.

Igor Boyko
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Asker: Смешно :) но в данном случае, нет.

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the office seeks the man
Место само ищет человека, а не человек его выискивает.


Explanation:
"Место само выискивает человека, а не человек его ищет" - эти слова говорят как бы, что "быть-не быть" президентом - это судьба. Мне бы очень хотелось написать - " Не место красит человека, а человек место", но оно не есть о судьбе, более о том человеке, что уже имеет место.

Alexandra Taggart
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the office seeks the man
Не место красит человека, а человек место.


Explanation:
Не место красит человека, а человек место.

Или уже воспользоваться более современным языком: не должность для человека, а человек для должности, т.е. идти надо не от должностных обязанностей к исполнителю, а от реальных возможностей сотрудника к поручаемым ему вопросам

Tatyana Leshkevich
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the office seeks the man
Должность ищет человека, а не человек - должность


Explanation:
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Mykhailo Voloshko
Ukraine
Local time: 13:28
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Palin says she would seek high office again


Несовсем понятна цитата, так как данное предложение противоречит цитате

Feruza Dostie
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