y siguientes

English translation: ff. /et. seq.

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Spanish term or phrase:	y siguientes
English translation:	ff. /et. seq.
Entered by:	Kate Major Patience

11:19 Feb 3, 2009

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Government / Politics / Aliens Act

Spanish term or phrase: y siguientes

From a document detailing requirements for entry into Spanish territory for stays not exceeding 3 months in any 6 month period.
Art. 5 del Código de Fronteras Schengen
Art. 25 de la Ley de Extranjeríay
Arts. 4 y siguientes del Reglamento de Extranjería

Does this mean article 4 and all those following up to the end of the document?
UK Eng please.
Thanks in advance.

Kate Major Patience KudoZ activity Questions: 590 (2 open) (29 closed without grading) Answers: 346 Spain
Local time: 15:17

ff.

Explanation:
Standard English usage (Article 4 ff.)

I'll see if I can find some examples

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-02-03 11:41:33 GMT)
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ff. = "following"

In France, where the transposition of Article 12 ff of the Directive on electronic commerce was finally completed in 2004, each term of the quid pro quo ...
www.gcal.ac.uk/bileta2008/documents/Stalla-Bourdillon.pdf

the special transition provisions of Article 23 ff. REACh will apply. ...... http://www.nanotec.org.uk/finalReport.htm [abgerufen am 22.06.2006] ...
www.oeko.de/oekodoc/335/2006-023-en.pdf?PHPSESSID=6rpga3n5e...

... Affairs and Labour to issue emergency orders, along the lines of those provided for by section 10 ff of the Act in respect of the electricity sector. ...
www.e-control.at/portal/page/portal/ECONTROL_HOME/GAS/STUDI...

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Note added at 46 mins (2009-02-03 12:06:03 GMT)
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"ff." is a common abbreviation taught at universities when instructing students in the citation of bibliographical resources and, as such, is as easily understood as "etc." Of course "ff." can mean several things in citation (such as "folios"). But when "ff." is preceded by a number, its standard meanis is "and the following (pages, sections, articles, etc)".

Here are additional UK examples:

See 3 Ziskin, supra note 1, at 108 ff. for sample cross-examination questions. 3. See, e.g., 1 Ziskin, supra note 1, at Chs. 1, 3, 5 & 7. ...
www.uea.ac.uk/~wp276/lawyer.htm

(here "ff." also means "and the following pages)
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LEEDS UNIVERSITY LIBRARY
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London branch AWST: general minute book, 1932-1961. 114 ff. London branch AWST: attendance register, 1932-1962. 115 ff. Attached: pencil on a string. ...
www.leeds.ac.uk/library/spcoll/handlists/095MSDep1991_3AssS...

Article 17 ff. EU Treaty; Article I-40 and III-210 ff. Draft Convention). Leonard F.M. Besselink a. Article author query. besselink lf ...
journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S1574019605000210

Selected response from:

Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Local time: 15:17

Grading comment

OK. "Et. seq." is correct in this context, but I used "ff.", as it seems less flowery and is also a correct term. A great help Rebecca. Thanks a lot everyone.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +3

et seq.

fionag

5 +1

ff.

Rebecca Jowers

4 +1

and those following

Carmen Schultz

from Art. 4 onwards

Arcoiris

and following

chaac

Summary of reference entries provided

pawlik

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

and those following

Explanation:
I think you hit the nail on the head...

Carmen Schultz
Local time: 08:17
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

English
PRO pts in category: 12

6 mins confidence:

from Art. 4 onwards

Explanation:
The original does not specify whether it refers to all the articles after No. 4, just "art. 4 and those following" as a literal translation

Arcoiris
Local time: 14:17
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

11 mins confidence:

and following

Explanation:
it means article 4 and following up until the next article of the same code is quoted.
this could be article 4a, 4b,... etc and 5, etc or simply the entirety of article 4 of a set code

Example sentence(s):

Article 4 and following a referral pursuant to Article 4(5) of Council Regulation

chaac
Local time: 14:17
Native speaker of:

English,

German

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

et seq.

Explanation:
yes that's right but it is generally translated using the latin "et seq."

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-02-03 11:41:36 GMT)
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An abbreviation for the Latin et sequentes or et sequentia, meaning "and the following."

The phrase et seq. is used in references made to particular pages or sections of cases, articles, regulations, or statutes to indicate that the desired information is continued on the pages or in the sections following a designated page or section, as "p. 238 et seq." or "section 43 et seq."

The abbreviation et seq. is sometimes used to denote a reference to more than one following page or section.

Example sentence(s):

Part III of the Order (Article 4 et seq.) provides for a system of registration of nurses and midwives

Reference: http://www.ilo.org/public/english/standards/relm/gb/docs/gb2...
Reference: http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2007CSIH53.html

fionag
Local time: 14:17
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

9 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

ff.

Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Local time: 15:17
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 104

Grading comment

OK. "Et. seq." is correct in this context, but I used "ff.", as it seems less flowery and is also a correct term. A great help Rebecca. Thanks a lot everyone.

Reference comments

49 mins

Reference

Reference information:
For what it's worth, it appears to refer to articles 4-16 of what is a much longer document. The articles in question refer to entry requirements.

pawlik
Spain
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Polish
PRO pts in category: 8

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