effect fire

English translation: fire for effect (see below)

20:42 Mar 11, 2010
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Military / Defense / platoon command
English term or phrase: effect fire
Validate the conditions to execute a first fire attempt effect fire.

Commander's responsibility.
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Mariam Osmann
Egypt
Local time: 21:34
Selected answer:fire for effect (see below)
Explanation:
= Validate that conditions would permit achieving the desired effect on the first attempt.

Fire for effect is a military term. According to NATO doctrine:
* 1. Fire which is delivered after the mean point of impact or burst is within the desired distance of the target or adjusting/ranging point.
* 2. Term in a call for fire to indicate the adjustment/ranging is satisfactory and fire for effect is desired.
According to United States Department of Defense:
* That volume of fires delivered on a target to achieve the desired effect. Also called FFE. See also final protective fire; fire mission; suppression fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_for_effect

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Note added at 5 mins (2010-03-11 20:48:04 GMT)
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That is, "Make sure that conditions would allow achieving the desired effect on the first attempt"
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Filippe Vasconcellos de Freitas Guimarães
Brazil
Local time: 16:34
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4 +1fire for effect (see below)
Filippe Vasconcellos de Freitas Guimarães
3to fire or to produce fire
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fire for effect (see below)


Explanation:
= Validate that conditions would permit achieving the desired effect on the first attempt.

Fire for effect is a military term. According to NATO doctrine:
* 1. Fire which is delivered after the mean point of impact or burst is within the desired distance of the target or adjusting/ranging point.
* 2. Term in a call for fire to indicate the adjustment/ranging is satisfactory and fire for effect is desired.
According to United States Department of Defense:
* That volume of fires delivered on a target to achieve the desired effect. Also called FFE. See also final protective fire; fire mission; suppression fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_for_effect

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Note added at 5 mins (2010-03-11 20:48:04 GMT)
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That is, "Make sure that conditions would allow achieving the desired effect on the first attempt"

Filippe Vasconcellos de Freitas Guimarães
Brazil
Local time: 16:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
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muito obrigado

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to fire or to produce fire


Explanation:
I assume that there should be a comma after "attempt". To effect something is to bring it about. First the evaluation, then the action. I can't find an example of "to effect fire", but did come up with "to effect fire support coordination", which illustrates the use of "to effect" in a military context.

"platoon has one brigade liaison team to effect fire support coordination at the US Army combat ... (SALTs) to effect fire support at the maneuver battalion ..."
library.enlisted.info/field-manuals/series-1/FM90_20/CH4.PDF

B D Finch
France
Local time: 21:34
Native speaker of: English
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