oplevelse (når den IKKE er lige med experience)

14:09 May 15, 2012 

Jeg var glad for alle forslag... Encounter var meget godt et par steder, hvor man møder en rigtig situation, og appreciate, hvor man tager det ombord og bearbejder det til erfaring...

Heldigvis var det en kunde, der betaler godt. Hendes opgaver er altid spændende, men denne her var ved at være for meget af det gode!
Tak igen for hjælpen.

12:19 May 9, 2012 

Might "encounter" work in some of your contexts?

10:20 May 9, 2012 

The text goes on to discuss the difference between the 'experience' of the apple and the concert.

And yes, thanks David, that is a good summary.

I think the only solution will be to use several words, but it is quite a recurring problem with 'oplevelse' in different contexts.

I would love a synonym for the moment of experiencing some thing, which is really the core of this text, because that is what this kind of learning is based on.

Thanks everyone for contributions so far!

09:55 May 9, 2012 

It seems to me that there are two concepts here for which we in English use the same word, viz. experience:
1) the apprehension of something in the moment
2) the knowledge that one builds over the years

So, I can have a wonderful experience at a concert, and/or have many years' experience in banking and finance.
But that is using "experience" as a noun - not a problem, as the Danish would be "oplevelse" and "erfaring" respectively.
Then we get into using "experience" as a verb. I would not, for example, say, "I was recently in Paris where I experienced a performance by Tanztheater Wuppertal." I would say "... I went to ...". The fact that I went to the performance implies that I experienced something. But then I could say, "It was a wonderful experience." (Noun again)
With the apple example, I would agree with Gitte's suggestion of "discover".
As for "experience" vs "erfarhrung", isn't it simply that English uses experience to cover both work experience and life experience, with the difference being implied by the context, whereas "erfahrung" is specifically work experience.
So it depends on the context. Or have I totally misunderstood the issue? :)

05:02 May 9, 2012 

Ud fra de tre eksempler, du nævner, synes jeg, det ser ud til, at du er nødt til at anvende en række forskellige ord i din tekst. Det er det gamle problem, at dansk er et 'fattigt' sprog i forhold til engelsk, hvis man ser på antallet af ord, vi har til rådighed. I dine eksempler ville jeg måske anvende 'discover' for eksemplet med æblet, 'knowledge' om den tilegnede viden/erfaring, og 'enjoy' eller 'appreciate' om koncerten. Helt overordnet lyder det dog som om, 'learning by doing' er det nærmeste, der dækker dit koncept.

22:09 May 8, 2012 

Okay - spørg bare løs igen. Jeg vil gerne hjælpe, hvis jeg kan :)

22:07 May 8, 2012 

Det er stort set umuligt at oversætte med kun experience eller direct/active experience, som jeg også har fundet.
Det lyder som en helt fornuftig diskussion på dansk - hvordan oplevelse går igennem reflektion til erfaring...

Heldigvis er min deadline først på fredag, men jeg har også en del tilbage at oversætte inden!

Jeg har oversat ´oplevelse´ med mange forskellige ord over tiden... også perception, men måske hjælper det også at arbejde med de efterfølgende eksempler og forklaringer.