fir for
English translation: (truth) strength, courage
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| 12:36 Oct 10, 2012 |
| Irish to English translations [PRO] Education / Pedagogy / University Degree | |||||||
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|  Selected response from: Yvonne Gallagher Ireland Local time: 00:54 | ||||||
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| 4 +1 | (truth) strength, courage |
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peer agreement (net): +1(truth) strength, courage Explanation: finally found the seal, where else but on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_University_of_Ireland so is not Irish at all! -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 6 hrs (2012-10-10 18:51:14 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- have change the pair Latin to Eng -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 8 hrs (2012-10-10 21:24:15 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Sandra has an interesting take so maybe it is Old Irish after all. "Fear" is "man" with "fir" =men (lots of tourists go into the wrong toilets in Ireland as thety think the "f" has to be female and the "M of mná =women =men!). Fer I don't know but I found this Fir fer is literally "truth of men" in Old Irish. http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/topic37142.... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 8 hrs (2012-10-10 21:26:33 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- can't find "fer" in my Irish dictionary but maybe it is Old Irish -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 8 hrs (2012-10-10 21:29:35 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Modern Irish as I said earlier has fíor=true and fírinne=truth -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-10 21:38:10 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The other thing, that Sandra also mentions, is that the strenth/courage of the Wiki translation is to do with a motto of the Fianna, the ancient Irish warriors, about men of courage being men of truth, i.e not a literal translation but a figurative one. Just thinking outside the box here... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-10 21:42:12 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- that should have been truth of men/man (MAN= FEAR, in the genitive or /and plural here as FIR)=courage -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 5 days (2012-10-15 13:56:20 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- glad to have helped! I'll put the Wiki one in the glossary entry as I think it is related to the figurative courage that these legendary warriors had |
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