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ع

English translation: For/

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Arabic term or phrase:ع
English translation:For/
Entered by: Ahmed Ghaly (X)

19:15 Jan 27, 2014
Arabic to English translations [PRO]
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Arabic term or phrase: ع
Hi,

At the end of a letter it is signed and then says

ع / المدير العام

I'm guessing it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", but not sure.

Thank you for any help.
Andrew Cavell
Local time: 18:50
For/
Explanation:
Based on my vast experience in translating letters and contracts, i found that the preposition "For" is widely used in such cases.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-01-27 21:31:30 GMT)
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Mr. Andrew said that this letter came at the end of the letter and after that came the signature.
ع / المدير العام

For sure, it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", and it is used to be shortened into "For/ followed by the Title" and then comes the signature

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Note added at 19 hrs (2014-01-28 14:15:45 GMT)
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even the expression "عناية السيد" is translated into kind attention. It is usually shortened into "K/A"
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Ahmed Ghaly (X)
Egypt
Local time: 19:50
Grading comment
Thank you everyone.

I very much like the pp answer too, but I believe the pp is usually handwritten by the signatory, whereas the ع here is printed. There is also the confusion that technically the pp should go in front of the person signing, not the signed-for person signed for - although many offices put it in front of the signed-for person.


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Summary of answers provided
5 +1For/
Ahmed Ghaly (X)
5p.p. (per procurationem)
Meriem Bouda
4 +1acting / on behalf of
hassan zekry
3his esteem
Mohammed Abdulsalam


  

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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
his esteem


Explanation:
may be it is short for عناية السيد that means "his esteem" if the context can bear this meaning.

Mohammed Abdulsalam
United Arab Emirates
Local time: 21:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Arabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Hossam Eid: To the attention of
38 mins
disagree  Ahmed Ghaly (X): Dear Sir, with due regard, i would like to inform you that the word is not an abbreviation for "عناية السيد" rather, it is an abbreviation for "عن", which is an abbrev. itself for بالنيابة عن, it is used to be shortened to "for" instead of "acting for"
1 hr
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
p.p. (per procurationem)


Explanation:
A common usage of per procurationem occurs in business letters, which are often signed on behalf of another person. For example, given a secretary authorized to sign a letter on behalf of the president of a company, the signature takes the form:

p.p. Secretary's Signature
President's Name


    Reference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP
    Reference: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/pp
Meriem Bouda
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Saleh Dardeer: Nice// Had I had multiple agrees, I would have posted all of them for this wonderful and supported answer with references. It gives the native word. I wish this will be the selected answer to enter this term into the glossary and benefit colleagues
12 mins
  -> Thank you very much that is very nice of you :)
disagree  Ahmed Ghaly (X): I have translated an agreement today from English into Arabic ended by following phrase "for and on behalf of" then comes the signature. That is why I am sure that "For" is very common in such cases, but i have never encountered p.p. be4 during my career
17 hrs
  -> Hi Ahmed, I am sorry but I am 100% sure of this one. I live and work in the UK. I had my own contract signed by the PA on behalf of the general manager. It was definitely p.p. not for
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
acting / on behalf of


Explanation:
.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2014-01-28 08:05:00 GMT)
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(حسب معلوماتي، يُستخدم هذا الحرف اختصاراً لكلمة (عنه

hassan zekry
Local time: 19:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 99

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agree  M Ali Hassan
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
For/


Explanation:
Based on my vast experience in translating letters and contracts, i found that the preposition "For" is widely used in such cases.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-01-27 21:31:30 GMT)
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Mr. Andrew said that this letter came at the end of the letter and after that came the signature.
ع / المدير العام

For sure, it is short for عن and means "on behalf of", and it is used to be shortened into "For/ followed by the Title" and then comes the signature

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 19 hrs (2014-01-28 14:15:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

even the expression "عناية السيد" is translated into kind attention. It is usually shortened into "K/A"

Ahmed Ghaly (X)
Egypt
Local time: 19:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 397
Grading comment
Thank you everyone.

I very much like the pp answer too, but I believe the pp is usually handwritten by the signatory, whereas the ع here is printed. There is also the confusion that technically the pp should go in front of the person signing, not the signed-for person signed for - although many offices put it in front of the signed-for person.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Spiridon: Yes
15 hrs
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