Bier auf Wein, lass das sein... Wein auf Bier, rat ich dir...

English translation: Grape or grain, but never the twain

17:17 Nov 11, 2014
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German term or phrase: Bier auf Wein, lass das sein... Wein auf Bier, rat ich dir...
What is the entirety of this phrase regarding drinking spirits and what is the translation?
horsedoofer
United States
English translation:Grape or grain, but never the twain
Explanation:
There is no equivalent wisdom in EN specifying the order in which these can be drunk.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/23547-does-mixing-alcohol-mak...

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"Grape or grain, but never the twain." So runs the old folk wisdom that advises against drinking wine or beer on the same night. It is far from uncommon to hear people who have woken up feeling sick, dehydrated and with a splitting headache blaming their hangovers on having unwisely mixed their drinks.

Then there are the theories about the order in which to consume different tipples. One version suggests: “Wine before beer and you’ll feel queer. Beer before wine and you’ll feel fine.” Or is it the other way round? After a couple of drinks it’s not always easy to remember. All of which begs the question of how reliable these sayings are. Is there any evidence beyond the anecdotal that drinking wine followed by beer or vice versa makes hangovers worse?
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140428-does-wine-beer-huge...
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Lancashireman
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Local time: 12:33
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3Beer after wine and you'll feel fine; wine after beer and you'll feel queer.
Jo27
3 +3Grape or grain, but never the twain
Lancashireman
5beer before wine then you'll feel fine
David Hollywood
5beer after wine, is not too wise...wine after beer I do advise
Donald Jacobson
3 +1Fear beer after wine, wine after beer is fine
Yorkshireman
2First beer then wine is fine, but wine then beer, oh dear!
Jonathan MacKerron
1Don't drink beer after wine, but drink all the wine you want after a beer
Kphred


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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
Don't drink beer after wine, but drink all the wine you want after a beer


Explanation:
This is the entire phrase. It simply claims that if you drink a beer after a glass of wine, you will suffer a hangover, but theoretically, you won't suffer these effects if you choose to drink in the reverse sequence, i.e. you may have all the wine you get your hands on after having a few beers, and there won't be any adverse affects to your health. (Seriously, some people really think so).

Kphred
Local time: 05:33
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Grape or grain, but never the twain


Explanation:
There is no equivalent wisdom in EN specifying the order in which these can be drunk.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/23547-does-mixing-alcohol-mak...

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Note added at 14 mins (2014-11-11 17:31:12 GMT)
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"Grape or grain, but never the twain." So runs the old folk wisdom that advises against drinking wine or beer on the same night. It is far from uncommon to hear people who have woken up feeling sick, dehydrated and with a splitting headache blaming their hangovers on having unwisely mixed their drinks.

Then there are the theories about the order in which to consume different tipples. One version suggests: “Wine before beer and you’ll feel queer. Beer before wine and you’ll feel fine.” Or is it the other way round? After a couple of drinks it’s not always easy to remember. All of which begs the question of how reliable these sayings are. Is there any evidence beyond the anecdotal that drinking wine followed by beer or vice versa makes hangovers worse?
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140428-does-wine-beer-huge...

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jonathan MacKerron: nice - had only John Barleycorn been privy to such wisdom
2 hrs

agree  Cilian O'Tuama
6 hrs

agree  AllegroTrans
6 hrs

neutral  Kim Metzger: Has a good ring to it, but it doesn't translate the meaning of the original.
1 day 52 mins

neutral  Brie Vernier: Ahh, and here I thought you'd gone and waxed poetic.
10 days
  -> Hey, are you still lurking out there? Have you looked at the leaders' chart (DE>EN) recently. You're gradually slipping down the list of All-Time Greats. Lovely to hear from you anyway.
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Beer after wine and you'll feel fine; wine after beer and you'll feel queer.


Explanation:
I believe the German phrase you have is the full version. And this translation (or shorter versions of it) is what we tend to say here in England.

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Note added at 19 mins (2014-11-11 17:36:43 GMT)
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Sorry! Should check more carefully where I'm copying these things from!
Obviously, it's " Beer before wine and you'll feel fine; wine before beer and you'll feel queer." !

Jo27
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:33
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ingo Dierkschnieder: That's exactly the opposite of what the German says.
2 mins

agree  Lancashireman: “Wine before beer and you’ll feel queer. Beer before wine and you’ll feel fine.”
9 mins

neutral  pj-ffm: If you've been doing it that way round, I can imagine you've suffered some pretty messy evenings... ;-)
12 mins

neutral  David Hollywood: exactly the reverse
16 mins

agree  Kphred: Sort of got it backward there, but since there is no evidence to substantiate this anyway, so it is really just a way of encouraging people to drink more wine.
53 mins

agree  Kim Metzger: Reverse it and it's fine.
23 hrs
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
beer before wine then you'll feel fine


Explanation:
the idea is that it's better to drink beer (lower alcohol content) and then wine (higher alcohol content) .... so basically it's just good advice to drink beer before you drink wine

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Note added at 26 mins (2014-11-11 17:43:44 GMT)
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assuming you want to do both lol

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Note added at 27 mins (2014-11-11 17:44:33 GMT)
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big party?

David Hollywood
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
beer after wine, is not too wise...wine after beer I do advise


Explanation:
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Donald Jacobson
United States
Local time: 06:33
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Cilian O'Tuama: and this is the perfect (CL5) answer because...?
6 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Fear beer after wine, wine after beer is fine


Explanation:
No matter which, it's always the last glass that gets you!

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 13:33
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cilian O'Tuama: I sometimes blame it on the glass of water before going to bed
5 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
First beer then wine is fine, but wine then beer, oh dear!


Explanation:
google revealed this one

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 76
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