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(opéras, ballets) de l'ordinaire

English translation: regular performances/entertainment

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French term or phrase:de l'ordinaire (opéras, ballets etc.)
English translation:regular performances/entertainment
Entered by: B D Finch

13:54 Dec 5, 2016
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama / performance arts
French term or phrase: (opéras, ballets) de l'ordinaire
Not sure if I've got my categories right but couldn't find one for dance or opera.

This is from a text that describes performances in various locations at Versailles Palace under the Ancien Régime.

Here's the whole sentence: "Ils (visitors to the palace) découvriront ainsi des endroits insolites où se jouaient comédies, tragédies, opéras et ballets de l'ordinaire, comme l'inconfortable salle de Comédie de la cour des Princes, le théâtre de l'Aile neuve ou encore la petite salle installée à même l’escalier des Ambassadeurs pour le théâtre des petits Appartements."

I found this definition of ordinaire: "L’ordinaire désigne les spectacles donnés environ trois fois par semaine à la cour, « comédie », opéra et ballet, pour son divertissement, en dehors de toute grande occasion, tels les mariages. La fréquence établie par Louis XIV fut à peu près respectée jusqu’à ce que la cour abandonne la comédie de la cour des Princes.... À Versailles, l’ordinaire débutait à la mi-novembre et s’achevait début avril. Il y avait en moyenne trois divertissements par semaine : « comédie », opéra et ballet. (https://crcv.revues.org/10909#ftn4)

Would I translate "de l'ordinaire" as something along the lines of "regular" or "weekly"? Or even just keep ordinary? Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance!
Diana Huet de Guerville
France
Local time: 13:53
regular performances/entertainment
Explanation:
https://goo.gl/3owfEI
"By the end of the seventeenth century, most royal courts across Europe had
an established and regular calendar of daily activities and entertainments,
as well as the annual round of major feast days and anniversaries. "
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 13:53
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1regular performances/entertainment
B D Finch
Summary of reference entries provided
ordinarily, generally, usually,
Nikki Scott-Despaigne

  

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(opéras, ballets) de l\\\'ordinaire
regular performances/entertainment


Explanation:
https://goo.gl/3owfEI
"By the end of the seventeenth century, most royal courts across Europe had
an established and regular calendar of daily activities and entertainments,
as well as the annual round of major feast days and anniversaries. "


B D Finch
France
Local time: 13:53
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, this is what I would be tempted to use but just came across a previous translation that kept the term ordinary, so I'll go with that.


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15 mins
Reference: ordinarily, generally, usually,

Reference information:
http://www.cnrtl.fr/synonymie/à l'ordinaire

Ordinarily, usually, generally

You could probably render it with a change in tense in English "would" for example?

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Note added at 17 mins (2016-12-05 14:11:39 GMT)
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Ah, hang on, you have "DE l'ordinaire" and not "à". I suspect I've made a mistake and that it has a particular meaning in context as a noun.

I'll have a look and be back...

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks Nikki, I just found another previous translation done by someone else that uses the same terms (ordinary, extraordinary), so I'll just go with that!

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