parte social

English translation: workforce

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Spanish term or phrase:	parte social
English translation:	workforce
Entered by:	patinba

17:51 Jul 29, 2019

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)

Spanish term or phrase: parte social

In a Spanish document about a conflict between the company management and the workers, the side of the workers is referred to as the "parte social". What is the best way to state this in English?

"....las secciones de USO y XXXX como representantes de la parte social para la negociación del convenio"

Thanks in advance.

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Local time: 05:26

workforce

Explanation:
Human Resource Management in Europe: Evidence of Convergence?
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=0750647175
Chris Brewster, ‎Wolfgang Mayrhofer, ‎Michael Morley - 2004 - ‎Business & Economics
There were 2,249,400 trade union members in Spain in 1997.8 Of these, approximately ... Trabajadores and trailing some way behind in third place Unión Sindical Obrera. ... in Spain in 2000, representing almost 70% of the salaried workforce.

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patinba
Argentina
Local time: 00:26

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +3

workforce

patinba

employees

bigedsenior

3 +1

social partner

nlpresearcher

employee ownership

Ella Finn

Summary of reference entries provided

Workers / Representing Workers

Seth Phillips

workers already in the glossary

Adrian MM.

Discussion entries: 6

Answers

18 mins confidence:

employee ownership

Explanation:
I have seen parte social translated as employee ownership, when the employees of the company are given a minor share/stake in the company as part of their salary package to incentivise their performance. An example in the UK would be the Waitrose/ John Lewis business model.

Unfortunately I can’t tell from the excerpt provided if it would be the right fit for your text.

Let me know what you think!

Cheers.

Ella

Ella Finn
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

workforce

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 00:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 648

34 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

social partner

Explanation:
English source:

Whereas the Council in its resolution of 21 January 1974 concerning a social action programme (1) named increased involvement of social partners in the economic and social decisions of the Community as one of the priority measures to be taken;

source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE...

Spanish translation:

Considerando que el Consejo, en su Resolución de 21 de enero de 1974 relativa a un programa de acción social (1), señaló que la creciente participación de las partes sociales en las decisiones económicas y sociales de la Comunidad constituía una de las medidas prioritarias que debían adoptarse;

source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ES/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE...

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Furthermore, when there are negotiations between a company and its workers/trade-unions then all parties may be referred to as social partners as shown in:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:.uk "company"...

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Furthermore, a social partner [SINGULAR] is one side, any one side. The company is a social partner [SINGULAR] and the workers/trade-union are also a social partner [SINGULAR]. Both are social partners [PLURAL].

nlpresearcher
Local time: 04:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Simon Charass

3 mins

-> Thank you.

neutral

Charles Davis: In your source, "social" is related to sociedad as society, but here I think it's related to sociedad as company, specifically the company's employees. // But as Adrian says, social partners means both/all sides, and the "parte social" is only one side.

50 mins

-> When there are negotiations between a company and its workers/trade-unions then all parties may be referred to as social partners as shown in: https://www.google.com/search?q=site:.uk "company"+%28"workers"+OR+"trade+union"%29+"social+partners"

neutral

Adrian MM.: social partners & partnership in Germany and Austria - though submerged in ambiguous EU-speak in the quote - means all *3 sides* of the divide, namely management *and* labo/u/r.// Yes. Good *point*. Trade unions are also in the 'I'm all right, Jsck' frame

2 hrs

-> True, but a social partner [SINGULAR] is one side, any one side. The company is a social partner [SINGULAR] and the workers/trade-union are also a social partner [SINGULAR]. Both are social partners [PLURAL].

21 hrs confidence:

employees

Explanation:
In the UK it might be different, workers perhaps.

https://www.dummies.com/education/politics-government/collec...

bigedsenior
Local time: 20:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 343

Reference comments

1 hr peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: Workers / Representing Workers

Reference information:
This was apparently discussed before, this should enlighten:

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Term in question: tanto de la parte social como de la patronal y la institucional

Answer selected:
representing workers, employers and institutions

Explanation:
We've had "la parte social" before, and it means "workers".

I would say something like "draw up plans and proposals and discuss them with other stakeholders, representing workers, employers and institutions".

I'm not very keen on "interlocutors" - it's not a very common word."

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/human-resources/5056082-tanto-de-la-parte-social-como-de-la-patronal-y-la-institucional.html

Seth Phillips
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 20

2 hrs

Reference: workers already in the glossary

Reference information:
In the context of an industrial democracy - that some of us at University many years ago have written a sociology option treatise on - and in German, the 'parte soical' would be viewed from the angle of a *management-labour partrnership*.

Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/bus-financial/5...
Reference: http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/1769967-parte-...

Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 32

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