wegsuggerieren

English translation: can be magicked away

11:42 Oct 22, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: wegsuggerieren
Aufgrund von Nahrungsmittelunverträglichkeiten pilgern Menschen auch zu HeilerInnen, statt ihr Ernährungsverhalten zu ändern. Diese Menschen glauben, dass Körperreaktionen wie Durchfall, Blähbauch ... aufgrund von Nahrungsmittelunverträglichkeiten "gelöscht" werden können. [...] Auch wenn Symptome *wegsuggeriert* werden, verbessern sich dadurch keine Blutwerte, Ablagerungen verschwinden nicht und auch das Körpergewicht reduziert sich dadurch nicht.
Veronika Neuhold
Austria
Local time: 10:17
English translation:can be magicked away
Explanation:
Passive voice!
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Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 10:17
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2eliminate by (the power of) suggestion
Michele Fauble
3 +2wish away
Benjamin Morris
3 +2can be magicked away
Ramey Rieger (X)
4zapped by mere persuasion
Bernhard Sulzer
3explain away (by suggestion)
Michael Martin, MA
3self-persuasion convinces people...
Alexandra Hirsch (X)
3to make people think their symptoms have disappeared
Frank van 't Hoog
Summary of reference entries provided
When symptoms begin to show themselves
José Patrício

Discussion entries: 11





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
explain away (by suggestion)


Explanation:
Perhaps even "wish away".. but that's more than required, IMO.

Compare with this:
"The medical symptoms cannot be explained away by suggestion, "fear of computer work", expectation effects, techno-stress or similar theories." http://eloverkanslig.org/febse/FEB/feb_info.html

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 04:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Steffen Walter: Very similar to https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-german/business-commer... / Switched to neutral - Björn does have a point here (see discussion).
4 mins
  -> There's a significant difference, IMO.: "wegsuggerieren" suggests a more tenuous link to rationality than "rationalize away"
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
wish away


Explanation:
I am not entirely sure I understand the German connotation here. If the tone remains in the style of 'gelöscht werden' and the point is to talk about a 'willful' removal of the symptoms, then it certainly works. If wegsuggerieren somehow means the symptoms really have subsided, disappeared, 'wish away' might not work.

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Im Nachhinein: please refer to the discussion before (not) choosing this suggestion, turns out not to be appropriate for the context after all. 'Wegsuggerieren' seems to be an established term in hypnotherapy, not a 'straggler' without a history, which is how I approached it.

Benjamin Morris
Germany
Local time: 10:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
43 mins

neutral  Ramey Rieger (X): sorry! Was too quick with my enthusiasn, it's passive, so your suggestion doesn't really work
3 hrs
  -> well, the singular word posted was 'wegsuggerieren.' For any glossary, I would also write the bare infinitive form, 'wish away.' Of course you can make this passive in context: 'even if symptoms are wished away ,..'

agree  Chris Pr: Seems like the best fit here...
1 day 19 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
self-persuasion convinces people...


Explanation:
Hypnosis knows this technique.

Alexandra Hirsch (X)
Austria
Local time: 10:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
to make people think their symptoms have disappeared


Explanation:
Die Symptome werden von den HeilerInnen *wegsuggeriert*. I think a paraphrase works here:"Even though people are made to believe that their symptoms have disappeared, ..."

Frank van 't Hoog
France
Local time: 10:17
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Michele Fauble: Signs vs symptoms. The subjectively experienced symptoms HAVE disappeared, but clinical signs remain.//Seems to imply that symptoms have not disappeared. If symptoms are not being experienced, then symptoms have been eliminated per definition of symptoms.
9 hrs
  -> "The subjectively experienced symptoms have disappeared, but clinical signs remain." Yes, indeed... Did you read what I proposed for the first part of the sentence?: "Even though people are made to believe that their symptoms have disappeared, ..."
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
can be magicked away


Explanation:
Passive voice!


Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 10:17
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lancashireman: "somehow magicked away" I was considering this as an option but didn't think it would get any agrees. In that regard, I was wrong.
17 mins
  -> Well, at least you did. The perrenial great minds, my friend.

agree  Björn Vrooman: I like Frank's explanation, but I believe the symptoms may actually disappear, so I'm rather unsure about "make people think."
18 mins
  -> They actually do, but only on superficial level.

neutral  Michele Fauble: This lends a sarcastic, disbelieving tone. Suggestion has real effects.
7 days
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
zapped by mere persuasion


Explanation:
removed/erased by (mere) persuasion
or: taken away by (the power of) persuasion

https://tinyurl.com/yxrqxg6q

Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 04:17
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 3
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
eliminate by (the power of) suggestion


Explanation:
One way of expressing it

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https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/the-power...


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Note added at 21 hrs (2019-10-23 08:44:56 GMT)
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Signs and symptoms: Definition, importance, and uses
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com
A sign is the effect of a health problem that can be observed by someone else. A symptom is an effect noticed and experienced only by the person who has the condition. The key difference between signs and symptoms is who observes the effect.


Michele Fauble
United States
Local time: 01:17
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 3

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bernhard Sulzer: came across this: suggested away: https://tinyurl.com/u48stwr
2 days 18 hrs
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agree  Lirka
3 days 17 hrs
  -> thanks
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Reference comments


31 mins
Reference: When symptoms begin to show themselves

Reference information:
When symptoms begin to show themselves - https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&biw=780&bih=375&ei=k--uXd...
Tippen auch jedes letzte eigene Mitdenken wegsuggerieren. - http://www.sprachforschung.org/forum/show_comments.php?topic...
when their symptoms become suddenly worse - https://www.versusarthritis.org/about-arthritis/conditions/f...

José Patrício
Portugal
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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