SEMIOLOGíA POR APARATOS

English translation: Machine-generated diagnostics

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Spanish term or phrase:Semiología de aparatos
English translation:Machine-generated diagnostics

13:01 Aug 4, 2001
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Medical
Spanish term or phrase: SEMIOLOGíA POR APARATOS
Historia clínica de un paciente.
Semiología de Aparatos aparece como encabezamiento de una tabla.
Bertha S. Deffenbaugh
United States
Local time: 06:19
machine-generated diagnostics
Explanation:
There is such a thing as “machine-based diagnosis,” as opposed to diagnosis on the basis of clinical symptoms. The former is technology-driven and characterizes much of American medicine. The latter is less technology-dependent, is cheaper, and requires much skill, experience, and creativity on the part of the physician.

But "machine-based semiology" is almost a contradiction. What is in the table? Are these lab values? radiology readings, pathology results? These usually go under the rubric of diagnostics. Without more information, I would go for “machine-generated diagnostics.”

Fuad
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Fuad Yahya
Grading comment
In fact, I had no doubt concerning SEMIOLOGíA, but with semiología DE APARATOS. Though I know what it means, my problem was how to WORD it in english. Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
4review of systems
Neil Ashby
naTo qualify my earlier answer..."machine-based semiology"
Terry Burgess
nasemiology /semeiology (both in medical dict)
1964
namachine-based symptomatology/semeiology
Terry Burgess
namachine semiology
DrSantos
na -1apparatus-based semiology/machine-based semiology
Terry Burgess
na -1machine-generated diagnostics
Fuad Yahya


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18 mins peer agreement (net): -1
apparatus-based semiology/machine-based semiology


Explanation:
Hi again Bertha!
This is what I get from the Oxford Superlex. Hope it helps:-)
terry

PS: Hope your job's going a bit smoother for you:-)


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Terry Burgess
Mexico
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  spanruss: "Semiology" is a linguistics term that has nothing to do with a medical context.
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50 mins
To qualify my earlier answer..."machine-based semiology"


Explanation:
Sorry Bertha!
I should have given you more material to chew on as regards my first answer.

Webster's definition of semiology = "the study of signs and symbols; semiotics."
"Also, semeiology".

To verify my answer, see:

http://www.eca.usp.br/prof/iazzetta/papers/inter.htm

Hope this does help you dear:-)
Regards:-)
terry



Terry Burgess
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1 hr
semiology /semeiology (both in medical dict)


Explanation:
I think everybody knows this word from linguistics cotext but there is also
"semeiotic" that is in medicine field, that is, in the meaning of finding signs of symptoms. signs and indications of a disease. so that is machine based semeiology /semeiotic make sense.
Altough I speak no spanish , I tought that might me confusing and boldened to provide an answer.

1964
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1 hr peer agreement (net): -1
machine-generated diagnostics


Explanation:
There is such a thing as “machine-based diagnosis,” as opposed to diagnosis on the basis of clinical symptoms. The former is technology-driven and characterizes much of American medicine. The latter is less technology-dependent, is cheaper, and requires much skill, experience, and creativity on the part of the physician.

But "machine-based semiology" is almost a contradiction. What is in the table? Are these lab values? radiology readings, pathology results? These usually go under the rubric of diagnostics. Without more information, I would go for “machine-generated diagnostics.”

Fuad


Fuad Yahya
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 193
Grading comment
In fact, I had no doubt concerning SEMIOLOGíA, but with semiología DE APARATOS. Though I know what it means, my problem was how to WORD it in english. Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Neil Ashby: Nothing to do with machines - "aparatos" > "organ systems"
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2 hrs
machine-based symptomatology/semeiology


Explanation:
Bertha I apologize profoundly!! Instead of helping you..I probably confused you even more. Looking at the other answers, I realized something was wrong so I checked further. I originally gave you a totally different application for "semiology"...I'm sorry.

The problem is that the more correct word in Spanish would be "Semiótica" (medicina). Funnily enough, my original answer was also correct--except in a different field:-)

Anyway, the Simon & Schuster's gives me the above.

Sorry about the mistake:-)
Regards:-)
terry


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Terry Burgess
Mexico
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10 hrs
machine semiology


Explanation:
That is sufficient, short and what it is used.
MOST of scientific (medical) words are similar in all languages. What one has to do is to look for the meaning in the source language, synonyms, and then look how these are spelled in the target language. In case of scientific texts I would keep as much as possible to the original words ("semiology" exists in English). Likewise, the tendency nowadays is to keep it simple - machine-generated is redundant. The Spanish version was simple, and up to the point, any English speaking doctor would have understand it.


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6738 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
review of systems


Explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Review_of_systems

The correct medical term.

Neil Ashby
Spain
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