voorbesteding

English translation: pre-tender meeting

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Dutch term or phrase:voorbesteding
English translation:pre-tender meeting
Entered by: Julia Thompson

08:31 Feb 23, 2005
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Law: Contract(s)
Dutch term or phrase: voorbesteding
Could someone suggest what is meant by voorbesteding?
Here's the text:

Wij verklaren geen behoefte te hebben aan een voorbesteding en verklaren ons bereid te allen tijde de bovengenoemde prijsopgave inhoudelijk met u te bespreken en indien relevant te modificeren.

Thanks so much,
Julia.
Julia Thompson
Local time: 01:46
pre-tender meeting
Explanation:
The term 'voorbesteding' cannot be found in the Dutch "Oxford' De 'Dikke' Van Dale. It is solely a term that is used in the building industry. According to what I found below, it is just a meeting for contractors, where they get a small compensation for attending and weeds out the small businesses. No wonder that this contract would like a personal meeting!

Stichting Sociale Databank Nederland en de Schade ...
... gelang de verwachte belangstelling en wordt genoemd voorbesteding.
www.sdnl.nl/jan-van-de-vorst.htm - 11k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Maatschappijleer | - | Maatschappijleer-analyse van een ...... De bouwsector heeft als gevolg hiervan geheel eigen rituelen ontwikkeld. Zo was het vóór 1992 geoorloofd dat aannemers een voorbesteding hielden, tijdens welke de prijzen werden vergeleken en de prijs van de laagste bieder volgens geldende regels door de vergadering werden vastgesteld. Gezien het werk dat in de regel met een aanbieding gemoeid was, kreeg elke aanbieder ongeacht de kwaliteit van zijn voorstel, een rekenvergoeding toegekend.

www.collegenet.nl/studiemateriaal/ verslagen.php?verslag_id=11161&site= - 30k - Toegevoegde zoekresultaten


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Note added at 2 hrs 6 mins (2005-02-23 10:38:22 GMT)
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I meant to say: This *contractor* would like a personal meeting!

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Note added at 2 hrs 10 mins (2005-02-23 10:41:56 GMT)
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I also meant to say that the word \'voorbesteding\' is a take-off on \'aanbesteding\':

aanbesteding de (v.)
1
handeling
putting out to tender
call / invitation for tenders
aan iemand contracting-out
2
opdracht

Then there are many, many Google hits on \'pre-tender meeting\', which contrary to the Dutch word, really only serves to provide information.
Selected response from:

Marijke Mayer
Netherlands
Local time: 01:46
Grading comment
superbly answered - thanks marijke.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1pre-tender meeting
Marijke Mayer
3 +1pre-payment (perhaps in the sense of a deposit for an order)
Deborah do Carmo
3Pre-payment; commitment
bgranger


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pre-payment (perhaps in the sense of a deposit for an order)


Explanation:
Looking at it quickly, that would be my take on it Julia,

Hope it helps

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Note added at 8 mins (2005-02-23 08:40:28 GMT)
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In other words they are trying to be as accomodating as possible to potential clients saying we don\'t need a deposit and even our pricing is negotiable

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Note added at 10 mins (2005-02-23 08:42:05 GMT)
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If it fits your context: they will therefore take and start work on an order without a deposit

Deborah do Carmo
Portugal
Local time: 00:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 68

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
4 mins
  -> tks Siobhan!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Pre-payment; commitment


Explanation:
Julia,

This word must have to do with putting something towards an agreement--either some commitment, or a deposit (pre-payment). On the internet there was this paragraph about fraud in the building industry, and how agreements were made. The word appears at the end of this text:


Zorg dat je een bestek met een inschrijfformulier in je bezit krijgt, omdat er vaak weinig worden verstrekt. Een of enkele aannemers hebben het werk graag om de ordermap te vullen en zijn bereid de anderen uit te kopen. Dit gebeurt meestal in een hotel of restaurant of ander publiek gebouw. Daar wordt een kamer of zaaltje gehuurd naar gelang de verwachte belangstelling en wordt genoemd voorbesteding.

bgranger
Netherlands
Local time: 01:46
Native speaker of: English
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pre-tender meeting


Explanation:
The term 'voorbesteding' cannot be found in the Dutch "Oxford' De 'Dikke' Van Dale. It is solely a term that is used in the building industry. According to what I found below, it is just a meeting for contractors, where they get a small compensation for attending and weeds out the small businesses. No wonder that this contract would like a personal meeting!

Stichting Sociale Databank Nederland en de Schade ...
... gelang de verwachte belangstelling en wordt genoemd voorbesteding.
www.sdnl.nl/jan-van-de-vorst.htm - 11k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Maatschappijleer | - | Maatschappijleer-analyse van een ...... De bouwsector heeft als gevolg hiervan geheel eigen rituelen ontwikkeld. Zo was het vóór 1992 geoorloofd dat aannemers een voorbesteding hielden, tijdens welke de prijzen werden vergeleken en de prijs van de laagste bieder volgens geldende regels door de vergadering werden vastgesteld. Gezien het werk dat in de regel met een aanbieding gemoeid was, kreeg elke aanbieder ongeacht de kwaliteit van zijn voorstel, een rekenvergoeding toegekend.

www.collegenet.nl/studiemateriaal/ verslagen.php?verslag_id=11161&site= - 30k - Toegevoegde zoekresultaten


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Note added at 2 hrs 6 mins (2005-02-23 10:38:22 GMT)
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I meant to say: This *contractor* would like a personal meeting!

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 hrs 10 mins (2005-02-23 10:41:56 GMT)
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I also meant to say that the word \'voorbesteding\' is a take-off on \'aanbesteding\':

aanbesteding de (v.)
1
handeling
putting out to tender
call / invitation for tenders
aan iemand contracting-out
2
opdracht

Then there are many, many Google hits on \'pre-tender meeting\', which contrary to the Dutch word, really only serves to provide information.

Marijke Mayer
Netherlands
Local time: 01:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Dutch
PRO pts in category: 23
Grading comment
superbly answered - thanks marijke.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Deborah do Carmo: judging from this and what Brian's quoted text actually says once you've read this - I think you are spot on - can think of harsher terms for the meeting if i was an excluded party (haha) but in the context of this question - well done!
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