fins al punt...see phrase

English translation: In fact....

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Catalan term or phrase:	fins al punt...see phrase
English translation:	In fact....
Entered by:	mbc

10:34 Dec 4, 2003

Catalan to English translations [Non-PRO]
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Catalan term or phrase: fins al punt...see phrase

**Fins al punt que durant la presidència d´Espanya**país Mediterrani per excel.lència i fundador de procés, el partenariat euromediterrani es un dossier entre tants d´altres, de la mateixa categoria que tants d´altres.

I am correcting a translation and this is the English:

Thus it is that for the Spanish presidency, the Mediterranean country that gave rise to the process, the Euro-Mediterranean partnership is just one area of interest amongst a number of others, and is on a par with lots of others

And although I look at the English and think HUH?!, I´m not doing a much better job myself, if anyone could give me suggestions for at least how to start off so it isn´t so confusing...

mbc KudoZ activity Questions: 212 (2 open) (1 without valid answers) Answers: 131 Spain
Local time: 15:38

In fact....

Explanation:
I would rephrase this as follows:

"In fact, for Spain, the Mediterranean country that started the process and who currently hold the presidency, the Euro-Mediterranean partnership is just another area of interest having no greater weight among its priorities than many other issues."

Both answers suggested would be correct in a different context. In Catalan there are so many of these phrases that introduce sentences and do so generally rather redundantly. I normally try to simply avoid them. Here there is no real sense of contrast IMHO.

Selected response from:

Berni Armstrong
Spain
Local time: 15:38

Grading comment

Thanks to all of you. Bernie, you´re absolutely right, I certainly didn´t see the contrast. Cheers!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +1

To the extent that....

Veronica Lambert Hall

4 +1

So much so, that

Andy Watkinson

4 +1

In fact....

Berni Armstrong

Discussion entries: 3

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8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

To the extent that....

Explanation:
Fins al punt usually means to the extent that or to the point that.... HTH

Veronica Lambert Hall
Spain
Local time: 15:38
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 34

48 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

So much so, that

Explanation:
or, "To such an extent that.......

Andy Watkinson
Spain
Local time: 15:38
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 140

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

In fact....

Berni Armstrong
Spain
Local time: 15:38
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 552

Grading comment

Thanks to all of you. Bernie, you´re absolutely right, I certainly didn´t see the contrast. Cheers!

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