barbarismes

English translation: unassimilated loan words

14:12 Apr 9, 2017
Catalan to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Linguistics
Catalan term or phrase: barbarismes
This is in a text about the history of Catalan. The relevant sentence says "...s’iniciaren estudis sobre la llengua i s’elaboraren diccionaris i tractats de barbarismes" The word usually refers to Spanish words incorrectly used in or adapted to Catalan. Is there a neat way to refer to such expressions in English?
Any suggestions welcome!
Tony Isaac
Spain
Local time: 21:01
English translation:unassimilated loan words
Explanation:
The following three groups may be sug­gested: completely assimilated loan words, partial­ly assimilated loan words and unassimilated loan words or barbarisms. The group of partially assimilated words may be subdivided depending on the aspect that remains unaltered, i.e. according to whether the word retains features of spelling, pronun­ciation, morphology or denotation (when the word denotes some specif­ic realia) that are not English.

http://studopedia.su/10_45321_ASSIMILATION-OF-LOAN-WORDS.htm...

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Borrowed words according to the degree of assimilation fall into three groups: а) completely assimilated, b) partially assimilated, c) unassimilated words or barbarisms.

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The third group is unassimilated borrowed words. They are also called barbarisms. They are words from other languages used by English people in conversation or in writing but not assimilated in any way, and for which there are corresponding English equivalents: e. g. coup d’etat, eureka, persona grata, etc. (see Table 7)

http://ininet.org/lexicology-in-theory-practice-and-tests-st...
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Helena Chavarria
Spain
Local time: 21:01
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Many thanks for your useful comments and references. In the end I decided on "unacceptable loan words" as "unassimilated" suggests they might be assimilated eventually, whereas the emphasis in the works in question is very much on avoiding Spanish words when there is a Catalan equivalent. I haven't been able to track down any parallel cases in English, possibly because English is usually the dominant language in bilingual situations.
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unassimilated loan words


Explanation:
The following three groups may be sug­gested: completely assimilated loan words, partial­ly assimilated loan words and unassimilated loan words or barbarisms. The group of partially assimilated words may be subdivided depending on the aspect that remains unaltered, i.e. according to whether the word retains features of spelling, pronun­ciation, morphology or denotation (when the word denotes some specif­ic realia) that are not English.

http://studopedia.su/10_45321_ASSIMILATION-OF-LOAN-WORDS.htm...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-04-09 16:53:33 GMT)
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Borrowed words according to the degree of assimilation fall into three groups: а) completely assimilated, b) partially assimilated, c) unassimilated words or barbarisms.

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The third group is unassimilated borrowed words. They are also called barbarisms. They are words from other languages used by English people in conversation or in writing but not assimilated in any way, and for which there are corresponding English equivalents: e. g. coup d’etat, eureka, persona grata, etc. (see Table 7)

http://ininet.org/lexicology-in-theory-practice-and-tests-st...

Helena Chavarria
Spain
Local time: 21:01
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Grading comment
Many thanks for your useful comments and references. In the end I decided on "unacceptable loan words" as "unassimilated" suggests they might be assimilated eventually, whereas the emphasis in the works in question is very much on avoiding Spanish words when there is a Catalan equivalent. I haven't been able to track down any parallel cases in English, possibly because English is usually the dominant language in bilingual situations.

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agree  Natalia Pedrosa
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Natalia :-)
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Reference: barbarism

Reference information:
A barbarism is a non-standard word, expression or pronunciation in a language, particularly one regarded as an error in morphology, while a solecism is an error in syntax. The label was originally applied to mixing Ancient Greek or Latin with other languages. It expanded to indicate any inappropriate words or expressions in classical studies, and eventually to any language considered unpolished or rude. The term is used mainly for the written language. With no accepted technical meaning in modern linguistics, the term is little used by contemporary descriptive scientists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarism_(linguistics)

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[Name] tiene razón. El DRAE define Barbarismo en su quinta acepción como "Extranjerismo no incorporado totalmente al idioma". Éste es el caso de "estado de shock", que no aparece como entrada en el DRAE pero sí es de uso común, es decir, no está totalmente incorporado al idioma.
Por tanto, extranjerismo es una palabra que SÍ ha sido aceptada e incorporada oficialmente a la lengua, mientras que un barbarismo no lo ha sido, aunque sea de uso más que común.

Extranjerismo = loan word, borrowing
Barbarismo = en el sentido de solecismo: barbarism
en el sentido de palabra extranjera no aceptada: ¿?

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/barbarismo-o-extranj...

Helena Chavarria
Spain
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PRO pts in category: 4

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agree  Natalia Pedrosa
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  -> Moltes gràcies, Natalia :-)
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