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all over again discutint de

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13:18 Jun 21, 2001
Catalan to English translations [PRO]
Catalan term or phrase: all over again discutint de
The author has introjected these English words and I can't figure out what he's trying to say.

"M. Brett (1969) va fer un superb analisi de les explicacions proposades per l’anomenat "colapse" de l’"economia" d’Ifriqiya a partir de XXX/ 1050 AD com a resultat de les invasions dels Banu Hilal. Un dels motius d’aquest colapse seria la interrupció del tràfic del comerç transaharià vers Ifriqiya fent, per tant, impossible l’encunyació de dinar(s). M. Lombard, naturalment, és l’inventor de la proposta. El curiós es que, en aquest cas, l’especulació lombardiana va trobar una comprovació numismàtica en l’estudi de H. W. Hazard (1952) sobre les moendes nordafricanes baixmedievals. Posteriorment va ser ja acceptada com a fet per H. R. Idris (1962) en el seu estudi sobre el Zrirides. O sigui, hi ha un problema formulat en els termes de que la riquesa i la seva absència poden ser adequadament discernides, datades i mesurades segons que les dinasties encunyin o no monedes d’or. D’aquesta manera l’accés continuat a fonts de proveiment de metall d’or ha de ser un dels objectius polítics essencials de les diansties. Com va fer notar també M. Brett (1969, p. 349) l’aparició d’aquest tipus d’explicació - en contrast amb l’ imatge de "la plaga de llagost" destructora de la vida rural d’Ifriqiya amb la qual Ibn Khaldun descrigué les invasions dels Banu Hilal - modificà considerablement el que s’havia entès com la "catàstrofe hilaliana". La prosperitat d’Ifriqiya "before the invasion is seen a precarious thing, dependent upon imports of gold to provide for a poulation too large for its agricultural resources. Commerce rather than agriculture has become the dominant feauture of the economy, and the destruction of agriculture merely an aggravating factor, bringing Ifriqiya the more rudely face to face with economic reality" (p. 349) A part, doncs, de l’indemostrable factor correctiu malthusià, el que hi ha sota la nova explicació, lombardiana d’origen, de la catàstrofe d’Ifriqiya és el debat sobre si el comerç o l’agricultura produeix la riquesa de les nacions i per suposat de les dinasties polítiques; mercantilistes i fisiocrates metropolitants, ALL OVER AND AGAIN DISCUTINT DE programes colonials.
Jon Zuber (X)
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Explanation:
Maybe he means "starting from scratch again"... I have to admit that it's difficult to guess what he meant, it's quite confusing.
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Blanca Rodriguez
Local time: 07:04
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Thanks, that jogged me into realizing that he must mean "all over again" (without the 'and'), which often -but not always- means "starting from scratch".
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Explanation:
Maybe he means "starting from scratch again"... I have to admit that it's difficult to guess what he meant, it's quite confusing.

Blanca Rodriguez
Local time: 07:04
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in GalicianGalician
PRO pts in pair: 41
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Thanks, that jogged me into realizing that he must mean "all over again" (without the 'and'), which often -but not always- means "starting from scratch".
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