将在外君命有所不受

English translation: a general in the field is not bound by the orders from his sovereign

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Chinese term or phrase:将在外君命有所不受
English translation:a general in the field is not bound by the orders from his sovereign
Entered by: Di Wu (X)

14:49 Oct 12, 2008
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Military / Defense
Chinese term or phrase: 将在外君命有所不受
This is a well known Chinese phrase, seeking your collective wisdom for the best translation.
Di Wu (X)
Local time: 16:42
a general in the field is not bound by the orders from his sovereign
Explanation:
see "hanying cidian"
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peter arnout
Belgium
Local time: 22:42
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This is the most accurate translation within the context I'm looking for.
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Summary of answers provided
4A field general may disobey the King's order.
Mark Chen
4a general in the field is not bound by the orders from his sovereign
peter arnout
4A general in the field should exercise good discretion with regard to orders from his superior.
keepdancing
3A field commander must decide even against king's orders.
nimravus
3Freedom of Action for a Field General
Gertrude Tsau


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
A field commander must decide even against king's orders.


Explanation:
fyi.

nimravus
China
Local time: 04:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Chinese
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Freedom of Action for a Field General


Explanation:
Freedom of Action for a Field General
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=16254


Gertrude Tsau
United States
Local time: 15:42
Native speaker of: Chinese
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
A field general may disobey the King's order.


Explanation:
FYI.

Mark Chen
Local time: 04:42
Native speaker of: Chinese
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a general in the field is not bound by the orders from his sovereign


Explanation:
see "hanying cidian"

peter arnout
Belgium
Local time: 22:42
Native speaker of: Dutch
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
This is the most accurate translation within the context I'm looking for.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  tianshandun (X)
40 mins

disagree  keepdancing: A general in the field should exercise good discretion with regard to orders from his superior.The orginal phrase essentially means that the general should have good, independent judgement vis-a-vis orders from above while taking account of circumstances.
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A general in the field should exercise good discretion with regard to orders from his superior.


Explanation:
“将在外君命有所不受”虽然表面上多半是指“不受君命”,但实质上这句话是指身为将军,应当根据战场形势和自己的分析做出相对独立的决断,对于上峰指示应当有所取舍。讲这句话,为将者并不是有意不受君命,否则形同犯上作乱。

Example sentence(s):
  • The captain had to act on his own discretion in that area given the complexity of the situation.
keepdancing
Australia
Local time: 06:42
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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