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English translation: order-of-magnitude amount; rough figure

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02:38 Aug 25, 2001
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial
Dutch term or phrase: een orde grootte bedrag
Helemaal aan het begin wordt er wel een orde grootte bedrag geroepen.
Frank Hesse
Australia
Local time: 21:13
English translation:order-of-magnitude amount; rough figure
Explanation:
this is pretty poor Dutch (and a literal translation would be poor English as well). 'Order of magnitude' is a term commonly used in science/engineering and quite literaly means a figure with a factor of 10 of the actual/exact figure ( one power of ten is one order of magnitude), and it is used in such context in a comparative mannner. The usage has crept into the business context, where it means a rough estimate or a rough (inexact but representative or plausible) figure. 'Order of magnitude figure' is a perfectly acceptable English term here.

from ref 1 : ... the ionization parameter (10 -4 < U < 10 -3 ), or an order of magnitude variation
in the abundance pattern.

from ref 2:
... summarizes the strategies for getting a good order-of-magnitude estimate.
Selected response from:

Ken Cox
Local time: 11:13
Grading comment
It is rather poor Dutch indeed....a verbatim interview. I have chosen 'a rough figure'.
Thank you.
Frank
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Summary of answers provided
na +1magnitude of money; magnitude of monies
Sven Petersson
na +1order-of-magnitude amount; rough figureKen Cox
na +1substantial amount (quantity)
Alexander Schleber
naA lot is called for at the very start (outset)
Dave Greatrix
nacorrection to previousKen Cox


  

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7 mins peer agreement (net): +1
magnitude of money; magnitude of monies


Explanation:
Implicit in answer.


    My geriatric brain.
Sven Petersson
Sweden
Local time: 11:13
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 346

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jdt: if does refer to money!
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thank you very much!
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25 mins peer agreement (net): +1
substantial amount (quantity)


Explanation:
I see no necessary relation to money. Bedrag, can simply be "quantity" or "amount" of something else than money.

HTH

Alexander Schleber
Belgium
Local time: 11:13
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 826

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marijke Mayer: The best solution for poor source text!
47 mins
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5 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
order-of-magnitude amount; rough figure


Explanation:
this is pretty poor Dutch (and a literal translation would be poor English as well). 'Order of magnitude' is a term commonly used in science/engineering and quite literaly means a figure with a factor of 10 of the actual/exact figure ( one power of ten is one order of magnitude), and it is used in such context in a comparative mannner. The usage has crept into the business context, where it means a rough estimate or a rough (inexact but representative or plausible) figure. 'Order of magnitude figure' is a perfectly acceptable English term here.

from ref 1 : ... the ionization parameter (10 -4 < U < 10 -3 ), or an order of magnitude variation
in the abundance pattern.

from ref 2:
... summarizes the strategies for getting a good order-of-magnitude estimate.


    Reference: http://www.vendian.org/mncharity/dir3/oom_alreadydoing/
    Reference: http://www.lightandmatter.com/htmlbook/bk1ch01.html
Ken Cox
Local time: 11:13
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1385
Grading comment
It is rather poor Dutch indeed....a verbatim interview. I have chosen 'a rough figure'.
Thank you.
Frank

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jdt: but "order of mag. amount" sounds very weird to my (scientific) ears. O-o-m estimate is good. Rough figure may be better
21 hrs
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5 hrs
correction to previous


Explanation:
sorry, that should read '...within a factor of 10 of the actual figure...', more precisely, it means that the actual figure is located somewhere in a range that does not vary by more than a factor of 10.

Ken Cox
Local time: 11:13
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1385
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2 days 0 min
A lot is called for at the very start (outset)


Explanation:
Don't forget that usefull acronym - KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid.

Dave Greatrix
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:13
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 1747
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