Orphans' court

08:14 Feb 15, 2020
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English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Marriage certificate
English term or phrase: Orphans' court
This is a marriage certificate from the US which was issued by "the Orphans' Court".
Even if I leave it in English what would be the best explanation / translation ?
Thanks a lot
Lucia28
France
Local time: 01:34


Summary of answers provided
5Tribunal des successions et des tutelles
Eliza Hall
4 +1tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales
Cyril Tollari
4Cour des Orphelins
Emiliano Pantoja
4 -1tribunal des orphelins
Alexandre Saviano
Summary of reference entries provided
Cour des orphelins
Bridget Jean

  

Answers


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orphans' court
tribunal des orphelins


Explanation:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-french/law-patents/539...



Alexandre Saviano
Thailand
Local time: 07:34
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci beaucoup mais en fait il faut une explication un peu plus précise car l'administration française a besoin de comprendre de quoi il s'agit.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Eliza Hall: Linguistically yes, legally no. It's a court that handles probate/successions (the name comes from its role in protecting orphans by ensuring they inherit what they're supposed to and have guardians).
3 days 5 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
orphans' court
tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales


Explanation:
Le 17 novembre 2005 le juge du tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales du compté de Norfolk,
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...

On trouve aussi
LE TRIBUNAL DES SUCCESSIONS ET DES TUTELLES DU COMTE DE NEW-YORK
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...

ça dépend des compétences de ce tribunal qui change suivant les Etats. Avez-vous l'Etat ? Mais ce qui revient c'est tribunal des successions.

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*qui changent*

Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 01:34
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Oui il s'agit de la Pennsylvanie


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daryo: Indulging in a bit of research instead of presuming and guessing - that's an interesting idea! also https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orphan's court
18 hrs
  -> Merci !

agree  ph-b: Garder l’anglais pour la référence, mais proposer un équivalent acceptable et intelligible est la bonne démarche (l’équivalent exact n’existant pas ici).PS. OK pour « successions et tutelles » indiqué dans votre réponse et confirmé par Eliza Hall.
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Merci !

disagree  Eliza Hall: "Affaires familiales" is too broad (that's Family Court in most states). Orphan's Court = successions and some other matters relating to children and incapacitated adults.
3 days 4 hrs
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orphans' court
Cour des Orphelins


Explanation:
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Note added at 2 horas (2020-02-15 10:28:43 GMT)
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Cour des orphelins dans le Tribunal des successions (Maryland et Pennsylvanie)

Cour des successions en Angleterre et au Canada

Emiliano Pantoja
Spain
Local time: 01:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bridget Jean
54 mins

disagree  Eliza Hall: Linguistically yes, legally no. It's a court that handles probate/successions (the name comes from its role in protecting orphans by ensuring they inherit what they're supposed to and have guardians).
3 days 3 hrs
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3 days 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Tribunal des successions et des tutelles


Explanation:
Orphans' Court handles disputes and administrative matters relating to successions, inheritances, trusts, and everything to do with guardianships and similar things (e.g. powers of attorney). The list is LONG, but as long as your translation references both estates/successions and guardianships, it's accurate.

But Orphans' Court is NOT the same as Family Court. For example, Pennsylvania is one of the states that has an Orphans' Court. They also have a Family Court. Here are links explaining the competencies of each court:

Family Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/family/
"The Juvenile Branch [of Family Court] has jurisdiction over delinquency, dependency, termination of parental rights and adoption proceedings. Domestic Relations deals with paternity, support, custody, visitation, and divorce. Domestic Violence cases are also assigned to the Domestic Relations Branch."

Orphans Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/orphans/
"The Orphans' Court... serves to protect the personal and property rights of all persons and entities who are otherwise incapable of managing their own affairs.

The Court's jurisdiction extends to minors, incapacitated persons, decedents, trusts, principals and agents under powers of attorney, non-profit charitable organizations, cemetery companies, inalienable property and marriage licenses. The Court appoints guardians for minors and incapacitated persons to handle their financial affairs and/or their health and safety needs. The actions and accounts of fiduciaries, including guardians, agents under powers of attorney, executors, administrators, and trustees are examined and audited. The Court hears disputes involving inheritance and estate tax and marriage license issues. Questions regarding the administration and distribution of the decedents', minors' and incapacitated persons' estates, testamentary and inter vivos trusts, special needs trusts, non-profit corporations organized for charitable purposes, as well as Appeals from the Register of Wills are adjudicated and resolved. Settlements of actions involving minors, incapacitated persons, decedent's estates and wrongful death and survival beneficiaries are reviewed. Authorizations to act as an approved corporate fiduciary are issued by the Court."

Eliza Hall
United States
Local time: 19:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 40
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Reference comments


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Reference: Cour des orphelins

Reference information:
Cour des orphelins
Un tribunal pour orphelins était une organisation établie dans les colonies américaines de la baie de Chesapeake pendant la colonisation. L’objectif principal cette institution était de protéger les enfants orphelins dans leur droit à la succession du membre de leur famille décédé des réclamations et des abus commis par leurs beaux-parents et d’autres personnes.

Aujourd'hui, au moins dans le Maryland et en Pennsylvanie, les tribunaux des successions sont encore appelés tribunaux des orphelins. Pour des raisons historiques, ils doivent connaître des testaments de successions contestées et superviser les successions soumises à une vérification judiciaire


    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cour_des_successions
Bridget Jean
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
Note to reference poster
Asker: Merci beaucoup ! Cela dit, comment expliquer de manière simple et succincte ce qu'est un tribunal des orphelins pour que l'administration française comprenne ?


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Cyril Tollari: C'est du wikipedia. Allez sur legifrance.gouv.fr et vérifiez si Cour des orphelins est compréhensible par l'administration française. Tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales s'applique aux Etat-Unis et est compréhensible au moins.
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