born to a clan/born for a clan

14:16 Sep 23, 2009
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English to German translations [PRO]
Folklore / Navajo indians
English term or phrase: born to a clan/born for a clan
Ich übersetze Untertitel für einen Dokumentarfilm über die Navajo Indianer. Zunächst stellen sich einige Leute vor:

My name is RJY. I am from Monument Valley. I am *born to the Folded Arm People Clan, born for the Near The Water
Clan* and Tangle Clan, Many Goat Clan are my paternal
grandparents. Bitter Water Clan is my grandfather.

Greetings, my name is BYJ. I am *born to the Folded Arm People Clan and born for the Red House Clan*, Bitter Water Clan is my grandfather, Tobacco People Clan and Red Running Into The Water People Clan are my paternal grandparents.

Wo ist der Unterschied? Und wie sag ich's auf Deutsch?
Danke!
Caro Maucher
Germany
Local time: 20:59


Summary of answers provided
3gehöre dem XX- und XY-Klan an
Sabine Wulf
3Sippe
Goldcoaster
Summary of reference entries provided
Info
Kim Metzger
Navajo children are "born to" the mother's clan and take her clan name,
Cilian O'Tuama

Discussion entries: 8





  

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Sippe


Explanation:
einer Sippe enstammen; zur Sippe der ... angehörend

Goldcoaster
Switzerland
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman

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neutral  Kim Metzger: Didn't you read the reference comments?
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gehöre dem XX- und XY-Klan an


Explanation:
"born to" eigentlich "hineingeboren", ist aber wohl zu lang :-(.

Oder einfach nur: Ich gehöre dem XX- und XY-Klan an.
Anschließend kommt ja noch der "Oppa" ins Spiel, dann ist ja ersichtlich, dass die ersten beiden Mama und Papa sind, oder? Somit müssen die langen Begriffe "mütterlicherseits"/"väterlicherseits" nicht mehr erwähnt werden.

Sabine Wulf
Germany
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
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Reference comments


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Reference: Info

Reference information:
"Those in the "born for" category are paternal children of the clan and are related to each other as siblings."

http://tinyurl.com/melofv

Kim Metzger
Mexico
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Reference: Navajo children are "born to" the mother's clan and take her clan name,

Reference information:
and are "born for" the father's clan

acc. to ref. below.


    Reference: http://www.lapahie.com/Dine_Clans.cfm
Cilian O'Tuama
Native speaker of: English
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