New Augmentation of Scotland

Italian translation: Treasurer of the New Augmentation di Scozia

22:13 Apr 21, 2017
English to Italian translations [Non-PRO]
History / 1500 inglese-scozzese
English term or phrase: New Augmentation of Scotland
Born a bastard like Jerome, Hamilton has risen to become Archbishop of St Andrews and
Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation of Scotland. However, he is a martyr to his debilitating asthma. His personal physician, John Cassanate, has abandoned trying to come up with a cure. Instead, Cassanate has used Scotland’s status as a solidly independent Catholic state to engage the services of the doctors at the court of the King of Catholic France and those who attend the French King’s nemesis, Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. However, none has managed to be of the slightest help.
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Local time: 21:21
Italian translation:Treasurer of the New Augmentation di Scozia
Explanation:
È la parte finale della denominazione completa della carica di tesoriere riportata nel testo, una carica relativa alla Scozia del XVI secolo, sotto Maria Stuarda, prima dell'unione con l'Inghilterra. Indica l'ultima delle quattro mansioni che furono conglobate nell'unica figura del tesoriere, e riguarda, in particolare, l'amministrazione dei beni della Chiesa acquisiti dalla Scozia nel 1558 (da cui il termine "Augmentation").

Trattandosi di mansioni estremamente specifiche e legate al contesto storico del tempo, l'intero nome della carica, secondo me, va lasciato in inglese.

Ecco spiegata, in questo testo in inglese, la formazione di questa particolare carica multipla, e della relativa definizione:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasurer_of_Scotland

"The Treasurer was a senior post in the pre-Union government of Scotland, the Privy Council of Scotland. The full title of the post was **Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation**, formed as it was from the amalgamation of four earlier offices. Of these, the Treasurer and Comptroller had originated in 1425 when the Chamberlain's financial functions were transferred to them.[1] From 1466 the Comptroller had sole responsibility for financing the royal household to which certain revenues (the property) were appropriated, with the Treasurer being responsible for the remaining revenue (the casualty) and other expenditure. The Collector-General, created in 1562, handled the Crown's revenue from the thirds of benefices, and the **Treasurer of the New Augmentation** was responsible for the former church lands annexed to the Crown in 1587."

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Quindi io riporterei tutto tra virgolette, aggiungendo al massimo una spiegazione, possibilmente in parentesi o in nota.

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E perciò, il nome completo della carica è:

«"Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation" di Scozia».
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new augmentation of scotland
Treasurer of the New Augmentation di Scozia


Explanation:
È la parte finale della denominazione completa della carica di tesoriere riportata nel testo, una carica relativa alla Scozia del XVI secolo, sotto Maria Stuarda, prima dell'unione con l'Inghilterra. Indica l'ultima delle quattro mansioni che furono conglobate nell'unica figura del tesoriere, e riguarda, in particolare, l'amministrazione dei beni della Chiesa acquisiti dalla Scozia nel 1558 (da cui il termine "Augmentation").

Trattandosi di mansioni estremamente specifiche e legate al contesto storico del tempo, l'intero nome della carica, secondo me, va lasciato in inglese.

Ecco spiegata, in questo testo in inglese, la formazione di questa particolare carica multipla, e della relativa definizione:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasurer_of_Scotland

"The Treasurer was a senior post in the pre-Union government of Scotland, the Privy Council of Scotland. The full title of the post was **Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation**, formed as it was from the amalgamation of four earlier offices. Of these, the Treasurer and Comptroller had originated in 1425 when the Chamberlain's financial functions were transferred to them.[1] From 1466 the Comptroller had sole responsibility for financing the royal household to which certain revenues (the property) were appropriated, with the Treasurer being responsible for the remaining revenue (the casualty) and other expenditure. The Collector-General, created in 1562, handled the Crown's revenue from the thirds of benefices, and the **Treasurer of the New Augmentation** was responsible for the former church lands annexed to the Crown in 1587."

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Note added at 37 min (2017-04-21 22:51:09 GMT)
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Quindi io riporterei tutto tra virgolette, aggiungendo al massimo una spiegazione, possibilmente in parentesi o in nota.

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Note added at 1 ora (2017-04-21 23:19:41 GMT)
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E perciò, il nome completo della carica è:

«"Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation" di Scozia».

Gaetano Silvestri Campagnano
Italy
Local time: 21:21
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