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a man or a woman convinced against their will is of the same opinion still

Russian translation: человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении

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English term or phrase:a man or a woman convinced against their will is of the same opinion still
Russian translation:человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении
Entered by: Alexandra McCarthy

22:13 Nov 17, 2006
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English term or phrase: a man or a woman convinced against their will is of the same opinion still
an old saying I understand, but how do we say it in Russian? thanks
Alexandra McCarthy
United States
Local time: 11:38
человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении
Explanation:
Например:
Я выиграл во всех спорах, но я потерял почти всех друзей. Говорят же, что "человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении".
конечно, не так красиво, как по-английски...
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Olena Bilonoh
Ukraine
Local time: 21:38
Grading comment
Thank you everybody! I'll have to agree with this version as it suits present situation the best, but I also wanted to thank for very interesting ideas two other members: salavat and Andrew Vladov. I liked it a lot :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +6человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении
Olena Bilonoh
4 +1Уговоры против воли – трата времени, не боле.
Andrew Vdovin
3 +1сколько волка ни корми, а он все в лес смотрит
Vladimir Lioukaikine (X)
3уговорить легче чем убедить
salavat
4 -2Муж и жена - одна сатана
erika rubinstein
2Насильно мил не будешь
ochkarik


  

Answers


7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Муж и жена - одна сатана


Explanation:
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erika rubinstein
Local time: 20:38
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Natalie: Эрика, ну при чем же здесь муж и жена?
1 hr
disagree  Yuri Smirnov: Да, странноватое толкование.
9 hrs
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении


Explanation:
Например:
Я выиграл во всех спорах, но я потерял почти всех друзей. Говорят же, что "человек, убежденный против воли, остается при своем мнении".
конечно, не так красиво, как по-английски...


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Olena Bilonoh
Ukraine
Local time: 21:38
Native speaker of: Native in UkrainianUkrainian, Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you everybody! I'll have to agree with this version as it suits present situation the best, but I also wanted to thank for very interesting ideas two other members: salavat and Andrew Vladov. I liked it a lot :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Roman Bardachev: аха, вряд ли есть русский эквивалент
2 mins
agree  Natalia Potashnik
7 mins
agree  Smantha
31 mins
agree  Natalie
34 mins
agree  Irina Romanova-Wasike
8 hrs
agree  Erzsébet Czopyk: я писала диплом по сопоставительной фразеологии :-))
8 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still
сколько волка ни корми, а он все в лес смотрит


Explanation:
Тут не воля, конечно, а инстинкт, да и не человек он вовсе, но попробуйте волка убедить, что корм "Педигри" вкуснее и полезнее пасущегося ягненка...

Ф дисятке?

Vladimir Lioukaikine (X)
Local time: 22:38
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Natalie: Если не ф дисятке, то по крайней мере ф дивятке :)
5 mins
  -> Спасибо, Наталья! Кстати, только что на этом вопросе поймал рыбку Lapu Lapu. Щас добавлю к Гастоновским чтениям...
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
уговорить легче чем убедить


Explanation:
компромисс между краткостью и точностью

salavat
Local time: 23:38
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 8
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Насильно мил не будешь


Explanation:
Idiom, may be suitable depending on the contest

ochkarik
Local time: 14:38
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Уговоры против воли – трата времени, не боле.


Explanation:
Вот такой вот опус собственного сочинения.

Andrew Vdovin
Local time: 01:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 37

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Zamira B.: мне нравится
9 hrs
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