good confession

Russian translation: молитва покаяния

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English term or phrase:	good confession
Russian translation:	молитва покаяния
Entered by:	Alex Lilo

01:47 Feb 28, 2002

English to Russian translations [PRO]
Religion / religion

English term or phrase: good confession

used in religious context
please give me an accurate russian translation

Josh_H

Покаяние, Молитва покаяния, полное покаяние, ведущее к спасению...

Explanation:
Good confession is not a very common term in religious Christian vocabulary. Are you by any chance from the Church of Christ? They use it often. I’ve heard them use it.
I would suggest translating the term into Russian as “pokayaniye”. This is the meaning I got from most of the word use I heard. You can also try “molytva pokayaniya”.

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I also suggest changing the Russian sentence when it does not sound right stylistically into a paraphrased sentence with the same meaning
For instance, you can translate “I ask you to make the Good Confession…” as “Я прошу вас покаяться и открыть ваше сердце (и разум) для Бога...» или «Позвольте Богу войти в ваше сердце и дать вам вечную жизнь (спасение)», «Покайтесь и спаситесь».
The English “good repentance”, as far as I understand it, I maybe wrong, then please provide a more extensive context, means either prayer of repentance admitting that you are a sinner and asking for forgiveness and then the prayer is supposed to obtain a free gift of everlasting life in Jesus Christ the Saviour, so it is a prayer of repentance, confession and one that leads to salvation. Hence, my Russian translations.
Or it can be a traditional Sunday service prayer to confess your sins, praise your Creator and go back into the world. But the Padro may want you to make a good confession following the rules all the way and making sure you follow every provision of the Lord’s prayer (Hallowed be Thy name…) by praising first, giving thanks, etc.

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Note added at 2002-02-28 11:38:48 (GMT) Post-grading
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I also suggest changing the Russian sentence when it does not sound right stylistically into a paraphrased sentence with the same meaning
For instance, you can translate “I ask you to make the Good Confession…” as “Я прошу вас покаяться и открыть ваше сердце (и разум) для Бога...» или «Позвольте Богу войти в ваше сердце и дать вам вечную жизнь (спасение)», «Покайтесь и спаситесь».
The English “good repentance”, as far as I understand it, I maybe wrong, then please provide a more extensive context, means either prayer of repentance admitting that you are a sinner and asking for forgiveness and then the prayer is supposed to obtain a free gift of everlasting life in Jesus Christ the Saviour, so it is a prayer of repentance, confession and one that leads to salvation. Hence, my Russian translations.
Or it can be a traditional Sunday service prayer to confess your sins, praise your Creator and go back into the world. But the Padro may want you to make a good confession following the rules all the way and making sure you follow every provision of the Lord’s prayer (Hallowed be Thy name…) by praising first, giving thanks, etc.

Selected response from:

Alex Lilo
Local time: 12:11

Grading comment

Alex Lilo, thank you for your answer. I almost got confused reading it the 1st time, however, you gave me the best transaltion options. i like molitva pokayaniya and this is really what I have been looking for. no i am not from the Church of Christ, Are you? you seem to know a lot about religion.
besides alex lilo's answer, i would like to thank freechoice, olexandr polovoyy, olgacast and darina guseva for their explanations. to my judgement you all gave the right definitions , but i can only grant the award once? am i right? and forgive me for not providing the context. i did not have it when I posted the request. and it took some research for me (good faithful english-speaking christian) to get the right meaning and be able to grade you appropriately. thank you all.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

хорошая исповедь

Katerina Warns

4 +2

полная исповедь or правильная вера,правильное вероисповедание

voloshinab

4 +2

Правильная исповедь

xeni (X)

4 +2

полное раскаивание

AYP

3 +3

Хорошая исповедь

Karen Mindlin

хорошая исповедь (хорошее признание)

Olena Kurashova

2 +3

подлинное покаяние

Brainworks (X)

4 +1

истинное покаяние; настоящая исповедь

Daria Guseva (X)

Покаяние, Молитва покаяния, полное покаяние, ведущее к спасению...

Alex Lilo

покаяние

Freechoice

истинная вера, подлинное раскаяние, хорошая (настоящая, правильная) исповедь

Galina Nielsen

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

44 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

хорошая исповедь

Explanation:
khoroshaya ispoved

This is what it sounds like in Russian.

Native speaker

Katerina Warns
United States
Local time: 02:11
Native speaker of:

Russian

Grading comment

don't exclude this as a possible translation, but ...

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: don't exclude this as a possible translation, but ...

1 hr confidence:

хорошая исповедь (хорошее признание)

Explanation:
This is just a variant of mine 'cause I have certain doubts here. If the context is "confession as a religion" then several confessions may be compared. So one of them might be 'good', and the translation changes for 'хорошая вера'. In any case, more detailed context is required for the proper translation.

Olena Kurashova
Local time: 12:11
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

полная исповедь or правильная вера,правильное вероисповедание

Explanation:
It depends on the context.

voloshinab
United States
Local time: 05:11
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

Правильная исповедь

Explanation:
Right now I'm looking at the book published by the Russian Orthodox Church which is called "How To Confess Right" (Как правильно исповедываться). There are special rules and regulations how to confess in the Orthodox Church. Therefore my suggestion is "pravilnaya ispoved", however depending on the context it could be "полная - polnaya", or even "хорошая - horoshaya".
Да, Владимир, может быть и плохая исповедь. Я знала священника, который говорил: "Нет, такую исповедь я не приму", что не означало, что он грехи не отпустит, а то, что человек не подготовился к исповеди. В этом православная исповедь отличается от католической, насколько я понимаю.

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Note added at 2002-02-28 04:37:54 (GMT)
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Хотя, кто же сказал, что речь идет о православной исповеди? Да, конекст действительно необходим.

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Note added at 2002-02-28 04:39:05 (GMT)
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Прошу прощения за опечатку, контекст, конечно.

xeni (X)
Native speaker of:

Russian

3 hrs confidence:

покаяние

Explanation:
в церковном смысле слова иповедаться- значит, покаяться

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Note added at 2002-02-28 08:19:04 (GMT)
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попробуйте спросить любого священника в чем смысл \"хорошей исповеди\", - вы услышите, что это прежде всего покаяние (и чистосердечное, естественно) в том, что вы считаете грехом сообразно морали заповедей, которые исповедуете.
Вы можете исповедовать принципы, но исповедоваться - это \"очиститься\" покаянием.

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Note added at 2002-02-28 08:40:08 (GMT)
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http://www.pstbi.ccas.ru/cgi-bin/db.exe/ans/orm?HYZ9EJxGHoxI...
обратите внимание на эту страничку

Freechoice

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

полное раскаивание

Explanation:
полное раскаивание [polnoie raskaivaniie]

or

полное покаяние [polnoie pokaianiie]

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Note added at 2002-02-28 06:27:48 (GMT)
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Correction:
полное раскаяние [polnoie raskaianiie]

AYP
Local time: 12:11
Native speaker of:

Russian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Brainworks (X): мне кажется, русское слово - "раскаяние"

5 mins

-> Конечно же "раскаяние". Это меня подставил Lingvo 7.0. Там написано "раскаивание". Спасибо. ;о)

agree

Daria Guseva (X): а можно ссылочку? Почему "полное"? Common sense?

2 hrs

-> Спасибо за поддержку. По просьбе трудящихся даю ссылочку. В Lingvo 7 приводятся различные варианты перевода слова "good", в том числе его можно перевести и как "полное".

agree

Freechoice: в контексте - это вполне реально

2 hrs

-> Спасибо

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

подлинное покаяние

Explanation:
или "истинное раскаяние"
one should fast two weeks before doing it

Brainworks (X)

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

истинное покаяние; настоящая исповедь

Explanation:
Думаю, что один смысл фразы good confession - это исповедь, выполненная по всем правилам.
Например, тут даются эти правила:
Formula for a Good Confession
http://www.gannon.edu/resource/student/campus/prayers/confes...
И еще:
http://www.catholic-pages.com/penance/howto.asp

How to make a good confession - Как нужно исповедовать(ся)

Также good confession может означать "истинное покаяние", судя по тексту на страничке http://www.brasstacks.org/sermons/ser3_101_150/ser0107.pdf

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Daria Guseva (X)

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

Хорошая исповедь

Explanation:
Т.е. такая исповедь, на которой ничего не утаивается, и совесть после нее чиста.

Karen Mindlin
Local time: 12:11

6 hrs confidence:

истинная вера, подлинное раскаяние, хорошая (настоящая, правильная) исповедь

Explanation:
As nobody has suggested "истинная вера" *correct faith*, I am suggesting it now, adding the best suggestions from the earlier answers.
For those who read Russian, please look at a really good statement of orthodoxy as "истинной веры" at http://www.pravoslavie.ru/sretmon/uchil/osipov_pravoslav.htm...
Islam also uses the same term, there are plenty examples on the Net.
Therefore, Josh: if your text is about choice of the best (most correct) confession=faith, take the 1st suggested meaning; if the text is about repentance; choose the 2nd, and 3rd should be used when disclosing one's sins to a priest.

Galina Nielsen
Denmark
Local time: 11:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

it is not about correct faith, but thanks anyway

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: it is not about correct faith, but thanks anyway

9 hrs confidence:

Покаяние, Молитва покаяния, полное покаяние, ведущее к спасению...

Alex Lilo
Local time: 12:11
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian
PRO pts in category: 8

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