Blind bidding

11:38 Jul 15, 2018
English to Serbian translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Mediation, dispute resolution
English term or phrase: Blind bidding
The task of the Project team was also to provide CCIS with assistance at identifying and negotiating with ODR platform providers concerning the use of ODR platform in B2C disputes. ECDR as a registered ODR provider in the EU is now, as a part of follow –up activities of this project, able to offer mediators, accredited at CCIS (and at the courts in Serbia) a comprehensive online mediation and blind bidding system. On this platform mediators can open cases in which they can communicate electronically, and asynchronously, with the parties under a format that reflects the practice whereby separate confidential conversations are entered into with each party as well as jointly with both.
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
Local time: 16:48


Summary of answers provided
4ponude na slepo (za vansudsko poravnanje)
Ana Djordjević
3 +1nuđenje/ponuda bez otkrivanja podataka
Natasa Stankovic
3kupovina (ili ponuda) naslepo
Njanja
4 -1преговарање на слепо
Daryo
Summary of reference entries provided
Online dispute resolution (ODR) // 'blind-bidding' services
Daryo

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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
blind bidding
nuđenje/ponuda bez otkrivanja podataka


Explanation:

Čini mi se da bi moglo tako nekako...

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Note added at 9 hrs (2018-07-15 20:39:19 GMT)
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Na primer, u medicinskim ispitivanjima novih lekova, „blind study“ je tzv. „slepa“ studija, tj. studija (ispitivanje) u kojoj se ne otkrivaju podaci o terapiji ispitanika (da li uzima lek ili placebo).

Natasa Stankovic
Serbia
Local time: 16:48
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
PRO pts in category: 56

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agree  GILOU
8 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
blind bidding [as Online dispute resolution (ODR) service]
преговарање на слепо


Explanation:
"blind bidding" није назив за појединачну понуду већ је назив за цео поступак који води ка споразумном решавању спора.

Стране у спору преговарају "на слепо" тј. ниједна страна не зна шта друга страна нуди или захтева.

У овом контексту је у питању преговарање - "blind bidding" овде није надмeтање где се купци (или продавци) надмећу да купе (или продају) једну исту ствар или услугу не знајући шта други купци (или продавци) нуде - то је сасвим друга врста "blind bidding".



Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:48
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 132

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disagree  Ana Djordjević: „Ponude na slepo“ - množina Ceo postupak sporazumnog rešavanja spora je u ovom slučaju „rešavanje sporova na internetu“, a pregovoranje je deo tog postupka kako stoji u Vašem navodu. Vansudsko poravnanje nema veze sa nadmetanjem koje pominjenete.
9 hrs
  -> Don't know how you managed that, but as far as I can see, you are disagreeing with something I didn't say, and you are repeating what I did say as your argument for disagreeing??? I'm not familiar with that kind of logic ...
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
blind bidding
ponude na slepo (za vansudsko poravnanje)


Explanation:
Prema objašnjenju na 127. strani navedenog dokumenta gde je korišćen termin „slepe ponude“, ali smatram da je adekvatniji izraz „ponude na slepo“ s obzirom da se ponuđeni iznosi ne otkrivaju stranama u sporu, već to rešava sam softver.

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ponude naslepo (za vansudsko poravnanje), u skladu sa srpskim pravopisom, a što je slučaj i sa drugim rečima (po mom saznanju, radi se uglavnom o prilozima) poput nasmrt, naživo itd. koji se pišu kao jedna reč kada je u pitanju pomereno značenje.


    https://www.academia.edu/15383418/Medijacija_u_privrednim_sporovima._PRAKTIKUM
Ana Djordjević
Serbia
Local time: 16:48
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Milan Filipov
11 hrs

disagree  Daryo: to je prevod za "blind bids" ne "blind bidding"
5 days
  -> I Vi biste u sledećoj rečenici "purchasing" preveli kao "kupovanje": We discussed purchasing a new car. Pregovori nisu palačinke da imaju sastojke, veb-sajt se piše sa crticom, Vašu logiku neću ni da pominjem. Što se mene tiče, ova diskusija je završena.
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25 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
blind bidding
kupovina (ili ponuda) naslepo


Explanation:
Berzanski termin; reč je o ponudi za kupovinu tzv. "korpe" deonica, kada ponuđač ne zna koje i kakve deonice ta korpa sadrži.

Example sentence(s):
  • Ja ga kupujem tek kad predje 0.0135 prema BTC-u...ako se ne desi uskoro, lazna uzbuna, vratice se nazad...Ko je kupio naslepo pre koji dan, dobro je

    Reference: http://https://forum.benchmark.rs/showthread.php?305726-Disk...
Njanja
Serbia
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
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Reference comments


13 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Online dispute resolution (ODR) // 'blind-bidding' services

Reference information:
Online dispute resolution (ODR) is a branch of dispute resolution which uses technology to facilitate the resolution of disputes between parties. It primarily involves negotiation, mediation or arbitration, or a combination of all three. In this respect it is often seen as being the online equivalent of alternative dispute resolution (ADR). However, ODR can also augment these traditional means of resolving disputes by applying innovative techniques and online technologies to the process.
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Automated negotiation
Automated negotiation relates to those methods in which the technology takes over (aspects of) a negotiation. Most of the ODR services in this area are so-called 'blind-bidding' services. This is a negotiation process designed to determine economic settlements for claims in which liability is not challenged. The blind bidding service may be thought of as a type of auction mechanism where some or all information about the players' bids is hidden. There are two forms of automated negotiation, double blind bidding, which is a method for single monetary issues between two parties, and Visual Blind Bidding, which can be applied to negotiations with any number of parties and issues.

Double Blind Bidding
Double blind bidding is a negotiation method for two parties where the offer and demand are kept hidden during the negotiation. It commences when one party invites the other to negotiate the amount of money in dispute. If the other party agrees, they start a blind bidding process whereby both parties make secret offers or bids, which will only be disclosed if both offers match certain standards. They can usually submit up to three offers and if the bids of both parties come within a predetermined range (usually range from 30% to 5%) or a given amount of money (e.g. €3,000), then the technology automatically settles the dispute in the midpoint of the two offers. Although, it is a simple method, it effectively encourages the parties to reveal their 'bottom line' offers and demands, splitting the difference when the amounts are close.

Visual blind bidding
The primary distinction of visual blind bidding is in what is kept hidden from the other parties. In traditional double blind bidding, the offers and demands are kept hidden, whereas with visual blind bidding what is kept hidden is what each party is willing to accept. This method can be effectively applied to the simplest single-value negotiations or the most complex negotiations between any number of parties and issues.[16]

Visual blind bidding commences when all parties agree to negotiate with one another. They start the process by exchanging visible optimistic proposals, which define negotiating ranges. The system then generates suggestions that fall within the negotiating ranges. Parties may continue to exchange visible proposals or contribute their own suggestions to the mix. Suggestions contributed by the parties remain anonymous, thus avoiding the face saving problem of accepting a suggestion made by another party.[17]

A resolution is declared by the system at the end of a negotiating session if all parties have accepted one or more packages (of one or more proposed decision values) at the end of that session. Which of those packages becomes the agreement may be determined by an algorithm that rewards the party that moves soonest into the Zone of Agreement. This algorithm is thought to encourage concessions and quickly indicate that they are willing to accept a fair outcome. This is in contrast to the chilling effect that occurs with the more common split-the-difference algorithm.[18]

Automated negotiation has proven to be particularly successful with insurance compensations and commercial activities. It is also a valuable tool for lawyers because they too can use it without revealing what they're willing to accept (unless an agreement is reached) and more importantly, without waiving their right to access the court, in the case that the negotiation is unsuccessful.

Thus, ODR is useful for resolving brick and mortar disputes that arise in businesses, insurance companies and municipalities, who are finding that ODR saves them money and time when dealing with B2C disputes.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_dispute_resolution

Daryo
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 132

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Ana Djordjević: Automated negotiation relates to those methods in which the technology takes over (aspects of) a negotiation. Most of the ODR services in this area are so-called 'blind-bidding' services. Odavde se vidi da „blind bidding“ predstavlja jedan deo pregovora.
10 hrs
  -> „blind bidding“ nije "deo" pregovora, to je glavni / jedini sastojak pregovora (dok traju posredstvom tog vebsajta)
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