military hacked government

Spanish translation: gobierno controlado por los militares

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English term or phrase:	military hacked government
Spanish translation:	gobierno controlado por los militares
Entered by:	Milagros Chapital

13:27 Jul 18, 2012

English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Government / Politics / Human rights

English term or phrase: military hacked government

the military hacked government which has suspended Parliament and banned all political activity

Milagros Chapital KudoZ activity Questions: 2 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 0 Uruguay
Local time: 11:59

gobierno controlado por los militares

Explanation:
Por el contexto, entiendo que este es el sentido.

Selected response from:

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 15:59

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +1

gobierno intervenido por los militares

Patricia di Lorenzo

gobierno que ha caído presa a los militares

FlyHi

3 +2

gobierno controlado por los militares

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro

gobierno cautivo de los militares

Yaotl Altan

gobierno repleto de/dominado por simpatizantes de los militares

Marcelo González

gobierno puesto en pie / diseñado por los militares

JH Trads

1 +1

el gobierno apoyado por los militares

patinba

Discussion entries: 8

Milagros Chapital

Uruguay

ASKER

gobierno controlado por los militares

14:32 Jul 19, 2012

Finalmente elegí 'gobierno controlado por los militares' que se ajustó a lo que fue históricamente el comienzo de la dictadura uruguaya en 1973. Entiendo que todas las contribuciones a hacked tenían sentido.Sí hay que descartar que sea un tipo pues fue mucho más que "apoyado por los militares". Creo que todos los Prozianos antes de preguntar por un término, buscamos exhaustivamente el significado y como lo dice Marcelo, por más que lo 'googleamos' no figura en Internet! Gracias una vez más por todos los aportes. Milagros

Marcelo González

Vietnam

military-hacked vs. military-backed

12:49 Jul 19, 2012

Parting from its usual meaning in the context of IT, "military-hacked" appears to go slightly beyond "military-backed" in order to convey the idea that the government (like a network) was infiltrated. By whom? By sympathizers of the military, i.e., political hacks who supported the armed forces and the dissolution of parliament (in Uruguay). Writers and speakers often try to "push the envelope" to convey new shades of meaning. New ways of expressing ideas are constantly being created. A "military-hacked government" seems to be a government infiltrated by those loyal to the military (as distinct from being a government backed by the military). Cheers!

patinba

Argentina

hacked vs. intervenido

11:57 Jul 19, 2012

Patricia - there is no way hacked would be used by an English speaker in the sense you and several others have indicated. It is an informal term (see OED) in relation to computers, where "intervenido"would indeed be the translation, but it is not the case here.

JH Trads

United States

this is not so much a matter

23:50 Jul 18, 2012

of agreeing or not agreeing, it is rather a case in which the source sentence could potentially mean different things, none of which can be ruled out at this stage, for lack of more context. For all we know, it could also be a typo...

Patricia di Lorenzo

Uruguay

hacked vs. "intervenido"

23:41 Jul 18, 2012

I don't see how "hacked" could not be translated as "intervenido"; in fact, I think Marcelo's definition is clear about it. Also, as I included under "explanation" (and of course I am aware that one could or could not agree), it is included in the renowned Glosario Internacional para el Traductor, by Marina Orellana. Saludos!

JH Trads

United States

obviously a difficult question

23:11 Jul 18, 2012

more context would be necessary to be certain about the intended meaning. The problem with the "intervenido" interpretation is that normally/usually in English texts expressing this idea you would find sentences along the lines of "taken over by the military" and other options but not "hacked"

Marcelo González

Vietnam

political hack (definition)

22:31 Jul 18, 2012

Noun 1. political hack - a politician who belongs to a small clique that controls a political party for private rather than public ends
Synonyms: machine politician, ward-heeler, hack
http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/political hack

Patricia di Lorenzo

Uruguay

Comentario

22:22 Jul 18, 2012

Aunque sin contexto, supongo que se trata de Uruguay, en cuyo caso "hacked" NO SE TRATA DE UN TYPO!!!! el gobierno, lejos de ser apoyado, ni diseñado, etc por los militares, fue intervenido (dictadura). Si no es así, Milagros lo podrá aclarar.

Answers

9 mins confidence:

gobierno que ha caído presa a los militares

Explanation:
Similarly to the IT meaning of "hack", here it means that the military have forcefully but underhandedly gained control of the government.

FlyHi
France
Local time: 15:59
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

French

15 mins confidence:

gobierno cautivo de los militares

Explanation:

Yaotl Altan
Mexico
Local time: 08:59
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

Italian
PRO pts in category: 133
1 corroborated select project
in this pair and field

2 hrs confidence:

gobierno puesto en pie / diseñado por los militares

Explanation:
suponiendo claro que se trata de un significado coloquial de "hack", en el sentido de "hacer".

De otra forma, si se tratara de un error tipográfico, "military backed" podría traducirse por "respaldado por los militares"

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http://www.rodolfowalsh.org/spip.php?article2020

JH Trads
United States
Local time: 09:59
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

French
PRO pts in category: 16

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

gobierno controlado por los militares

Explanation:
Por el contexto, entiendo que este es el sentido.

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 15:59
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 504

Notes to answerer

Asker: La historia indica que el gobierno uruguayo en 1973 fue intervenido y controlado por los militares

8 hrs confidence:

gobierno repleto de/dominado por simpatizantes de los militares

Explanation:
A government dominated by/full of military "hacks"---supporters of the military, i.e., political hacks who side with the military.

political hack
a politician who belongs to a small clique that controls a political party for private rather than public ends
http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/political hack

books.google.com/books?isbn=0292725027...David William Foster - 1997 - Literary Criticism - 180 pages
... decline of the Peronista experiment, and Peron's appearances in the novel hardly rise above his portrayal as **a military hack** and a boorish buffoon, which only ...

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-07-18 23:05:50 GMT)
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Since "military hacked" (probably best written with a hyphen) is so uncommon (in this context), I can only wonder how so many prozians with high levels of confidence justify their 5s; indeed, as a native-speaker of English (with a degree in political science), I'm still not so sure what the author means. That said, I'd imagine s/he is using "hacked" to describe the government as having been mostly (or entirely) comprised of/infiltrated by military sympathizers; thus, another option might be "gobierno infiltrado por simpatizantes de los militares."

gobierno dominado/infiltrado por simpatizantes de los militares

I hope this helps!
Cheers from the Mariana Islands :-)

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Note added at 11 hrs (2012-07-19 01:13:29 GMT)
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Hello Milagros: Though I don't see your answer to patinba, I'm glad you're including a bit of context here. Perhaps posting this additional info in the discussion area would be a good idea. That said, the question still remains as to the meaning of "hacked" (used in this unusual way). I think that saying the government was "taken over" (which might be "intervenido" in this context) may not have been seen by the author as sufficiently nuanced, which is why "dominado/infiltrado" might be a slightly better option (IMO).

Marcelo González
Vietnam
Local time: 21:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 156

Notes to answerer

Asker: As my answer to Patinba states, this is Uruguayan history, back in 1973, when the President dissolved the Parliament

Asker: Marcelo, lo sorprendente es que este término sea usado con este sentido en un Tratado y no lo encontremos utilizado de esta forma en ningún otro texto! El texto original está en inglés.

7 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

gobierno intervenido por los militares

Explanation:
Basado en el Glosario Internacional para el Traductor, de Marina Miranda
Saludos, Milagros!

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Note added at 11 hrs (2012-07-19 01:21:14 GMT)
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You're welcome, Mila!! Cheers!

Patricia di Lorenzo
Uruguay
Local time: 11:59
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you Patricia for this, which is the most appropriate when writing about the Uruguayan dictatorship

33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

el gobierno apoyado por los militares

Explanation:
I am guessing it is a typo or missreading for "military backed" As far as I know there is no such thing as a military hacked government

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Note added at 22 hrs (2012-07-19 12:02:37 GMT)
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hacked would never be used in this context by an English speaker. Just for fun I Googled the whole phrase and got 4 matches, all of them evident typos. Google "military-backed government" and you get 563,000 resuls.

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Note added at 22 hrs (2012-07-19 12:05:39 GMT)
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more evidence:

President, Amnesty Law Under Fire In Uruguay - Worldcrunch - All ...
worldcrunch.com/president-amnesty-law.../3201 - Traducir esta página
30 May 2011 – by: admin A photograph of one of Uruguay's disappeared. ... and spent time in prison during Uruguay's military backed governments (1973-85), ...
Uruguay - Amnesty International Report 2010 | Amnesty International
www.amnesty.org/en/region/.../report-2010 - Traducir esta página
Human Rights in Eastern Republic of Uruguay ... committed during the military-backed governments from being reopened. ... In August, a law on reparations for victims of state repression under Uruguay's military government (1973-1985) and ...
Rafael Addiego Bruno - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Addiego_Bruno - Traducir esta página
Rafael Addiego Bruno (born February 23, 1923) is a Uruguayan jurist and political figure. ... Sceptics were able to recall that since Juan María Bordaberry's 1973 coup, ... of the Uruguayan military in the government, various of the so-called 'Military ... were in fact civilians, and it had been the military-backed National Security ...

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Note added at 22 hrs (2012-07-19 12:09:56 GMT)
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And in the words of the US Deprtment of State:
In 1973, amid increasing economic and political turmoil, the armed forces closed the Congress and established a civilian-military regime, characterized by repression and widespread human rights abuses.

"civilian-military" means that it was nominally civilian but backed by the military.

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 11:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 91

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