Directive 2000/XX/EC vs. The Directive 2000/XX/EC

21:54 Nov 29, 2009
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English term or phrase: Directive 2000/XX/EC vs. The Directive 2000/XX/EC
I have always thought the definite article was not used before nouns with numbers (Lesson 5, 60 Rocky Road, Level 2, District 9, Page 210 etc.). Why is 'the' so often used with EC directives, even though they are specified by their respective numbers? Is it correct at all?
cquest
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5It's because of the year, and I'm not saying it makes sense...
Deborah Hoffman


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directive 2000/xx/ec vs. the directive 2000/xx/ec
It's because of the year, and I'm not saying it makes sense...


Explanation:
But when reading, say, "Lesson 5," I don't want to put a definite article because it's clear that 5 is the end of the delineation.

When I see an extended set of modifiers that looks like it's a directive *of the year* 2000, and then another modifier, I get a feeling I should put "the" there.

It's as if there is a cat sitting on a red mat, and the red mat came from my brother. Once I know there is a further description of "that came from my brother" I want to say the cat is sitting on "*the* mat that came from my brother."

I don't know if that helps...Aspect drives me crazy in a similar way!

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Note added at 8 days (2009-12-08 18:37:52 GMT)
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Actually, it does make sense if you look at it this way: there will be more than one directive issued in 2000. Therefore you cannot stop at "directive two thousand" but it must be "the directive 2000 such and such" because the purpose of the definite article is to mark...well, definiteness.

It's different than Lesson 5, 60 Rocky Road etc. because in those examples there is only one lesson 5, one 60 Rocky Road etc., whereas in your example there will be many directive 2000s.

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Note added at 8 days (2009-12-08 19:02:04 GMT)
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You may not see it but if enough native speakers do it you may need to accept it.

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Note added at 8 days (2009-12-08 19:08:20 GMT)
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I sympathize though because there are things about using aspect in Russian that I struggle to find a rational explanation for.

Deborah Hoffman
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Notes to answerer
Asker: I am not convinced, but thank you for your contribution :)

Asker: I meant a specific directive, like 2000/86/EC, for example. There is no other Directive 2000/06/EC so I see no point in putting "the" in front.

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