holding him down

English translation: literally or figuratively preventing him from getting out of the bath

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English term or phrase:holding him down
English translation:literally or figuratively preventing him from getting out of the bath
Entered by: Tony M

05:01 Dec 9, 2016
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English term or phrase: holding him down
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"For one of his fights, Artem still had about thirteen pounds to cut on the evening before the weigh‑ins, i.e. just shy of one stone in under twenty‑four hours. He decided that he’d cut half that night and do the other half the next morning. After a few intense hours, Artem had managed to get rid of seven pounds before going to bed to get some rest. He woke shortly afterwards, feeling a bit delirious. He was extremely thirsty, and he remembered that there was a two‑litre bottle of Fanta in his refrigerator. I’ll go down and have a little sip just to quench my thirst, he thought. Ten minutes later, he was sitting at his kitchen table, staring at an empty bottle of Fanta. He had consumed every last drop – and put back on all the weight that he had spent the evening torturing himself to cut. He was back up at dawn and spent the entire morning in the bath to make up for his mistake, with his mother ***holding him down*** to make sure he couldn’t back out. Artem still managed to make the weight, but that’s a good example of how not to do it."

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/hold-d...

1 to hold someone who is lying down, so that they cannot move
3 to prevent something from developing, or to prevent someone from doing what they want

Does "holding him down" really imply that she did not let him get out of the bath, or does it imply that she held him down, for example, by not letting him drink?

Thank you.
klp
Local time: 07:58
literally preventing him from getting out of the bath
Explanation:
Although she might possibly not have been continuously physically restraining him, that is certainly at least partially the implication here.

Remember that in a salt or Epsom salts bath, he would have greater buoyancy, and so it would help him anyway to stay submerged if his mother actually held him down.

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Your meaning #1

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I think as Gallagy says, it's a bit of both, really... certainly as I said, I don't think it would be a case of 'physical restraint', but as Charles says, perhaps her physical presence to help him stick at it.
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Tony M
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literally preventing him from getting out of the bath


Explanation:
Although she might possibly not have been continuously physically restraining him, that is certainly at least partially the implication here.

Remember that in a salt or Epsom salts bath, he would have greater buoyancy, and so it would help him anyway to stay submerged if his mother actually held him down.

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Note added at 57 minutes (2016-12-09 05:59:14 GMT)
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Your meaning #1

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Note added at 7 heures (2016-12-09 12:04:37 GMT)
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I think as Gallagy says, it's a bit of both, really... certainly as I said, I don't think it would be a case of 'physical restraint', but as Charles says, perhaps her physical presence to help him stick at it.


Tony M
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Local time: 06:58
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Thank you, Tony.

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agree  Charles Davis
47 mins
  -> Thanks, Charles!

agree  Jack Doughty
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Jack!

agree  Yvonne Gallagher: I think both meanings are involved as it's not let him "back out" or give up, so keeping him in the bath and ensuring he has nothing to eat or drink
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, G! To some extent, yes — though 'to hold down' would be an odd choice of verb for the second? Perhaps it's an AE usage I'm not familiar with? IN BE, I know about 'holding down a job', for example...

agree  Ashutosh Mitra
11 hrs
  -> Thanks, Ashutosh!

agree  acetran
1 day 4 hrs
  -> Thanks, Ace!
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