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00:05 Mar 27, 2007
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English to English translations [PRO]
Government / Politics
English term or phrase: face - in this context
The work programme for the project is informed by:

- ...
- ...
- Increasing application of the Ukrainian face in policy development, supported by the project team, and developing a policy friendly presentation of the project evidence base for the reform;
- ...

The project has performed some demographic studies in the country. Could it be that this is what they mean by the "face", i.e. that more and more locally derived data underpins policy developmet? Or does it mean increased local presentation in the policy development processes?

Thanks in advance.
Marina Aleyeva
Local time: 14:32

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5 +3It simply means the Ukranian position so...Anna Maria Augustine at proZ.com
4way of thinking or vision
Erich Ekoputra

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
It simply means the Ukranian position so...

Nothing quite as complicated as you suggest, Marina.

Hope this helps:


Note added at 5 mins (2007-03-27 00:10:58 GMT)

Position on policy development...

Note added at 48 mins (2007-03-27 00:53:09 GMT)

No Marina, it isn't ambiguous unless you have something strange elsewhere in the text; There is, in this context, nothing to suggest amiguity and you can safely translate the term as "position" without any qualms.

Note added at 55 mins (2007-03-27 01:00:49 GMT)

Personally I think that most enlightened persons recognize that the Ukranian position/outlook/point of view/proposal on foreign policy is sane - well, at least assuming this is a follow up to the Orange revolution.

Note added at 1 hr (2007-03-27 01:14:14 GMT)

Yes, by all means, do mention that. I'm not up to date on this social policy as I haven't time to read at present. And it is past 3 am here, and I am very late with a thesis correction (on sociology) so I can't help much more. I would love to have more time time to be interested but our profession does not really permit it, unfortunately.
Note: My sister is called Kieva which is interesting....

Anna Maria Augustine at proZ.com
Local time: 13:32
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Asker: Does not fit the context, sorry.

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agree  Mike Gogulski
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agree  Elena Aleksandrova
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agree  Robert Fox
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way of thinking or vision

IMHO, the "Ukrainian face" here refers to the strong desire of Ukrainian to be differentiated from Russian. "Face" is then an all-encompassing term to express the independence. And, in this context, I think it mainly focuses on "way of thinking" or "vision". Ukrainians may have their own philosophy in defining a policy.

Dr. Bilaniuk described Shevchenko as an indestructible symbol of the Ukrainian people, their language and culture as well as their aspirations for an independent state with a Ukrainian face. Without the influence of Shevchenko's word, Ukrainians today would be just another Russified, subjugated ethnic group...

Note added at 9 hrs (2007-03-27 09:53:45 GMT)

By independence, I mean not only political / physical independence, but the whole notion as a nation, a separate existence. If you ask people in my country Indonesia whether the talismanic soccer player A. Sevchenko is a Russian, they will say no, he's Ukrainian (as he's quite popular here). What's the difference between a Russian and an Ukrainian? Most of them will say: same ethnic/nation/culture, just different state. I cannot claim the same response will be got from the rest of the world outside Russia and Ukraine, but I will put a high bet for it. That's why another Sevchenko in my quote above fought for "Ukrainian face"; to tell the world an Ukrainian is not a Russian. :)

Erich Ekoputra
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Asker: Independence is not involved, either :).

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given the context

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