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If you had seen the pitiful state in which they were

English translation: The clause quoted is in order, but...

08:34 Feb 21, 2012
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
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English term or phrase: If you had seen the pitiful state in which they were
If you had seen the pitiful state in which they were you would not have a doubt a single second about their identity. Furthermore, I asked them if they were the runaways of the settlement and they answered me yes.
Phoenicia
Local time: 13:30
Selected answer:The clause quoted is in order, but...
Explanation:
...the next one should read slightly differently, such as
"...you would not have doubted for a single second about..."
or
"...you wouldn't have had a second's doubt as to (their identity)/ (who they were)",
or similar.

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David Moore (X)
Local time: 13:30
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thanks
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4 +6If you had seen the pitiful state they were in
B D Finch
4 +1The clause quoted is in order, but...
David Moore (X)


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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
if you had seen the pitiful state in which they were
The clause quoted is in order, but...


Explanation:
...the next one should read slightly differently, such as
"...you would not have doubted for a single second about..."
or
"...you wouldn't have had a second's doubt as to (their identity)/ (who they were)",
or similar.



David Moore (X)
Local time: 13:30
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tina Vonhof (X)
15 hrs
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
if you had seen the pitiful state in which they were
If you had seen the pitiful state they were in


Explanation:
While the phrase you quote is not actually wrong, it is very stilted and somewhat archaic.

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Note added at 31 mins (2012-02-21 09:06:17 GMT)
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Also, a comma should be inserted after it.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 13:30
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Yes, slavishly avoiding ending with a preposition makes for a stilted result, and is especially unnecessary when followed by a further clause, as here.
3 mins
  -> Thanks Tony

agree  Charles Davis: Absolutely, and I agree with Tony.
28 mins
  -> Thanks Charles

agree  Jack Doughty
39 mins
  -> Thanks Jack

agree  Arabic & More
1 hr
  -> Thanks Amel

agree  Phong Le
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Phong Le

agree  Tina Vonhof (X)
15 hrs
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