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13:49 Nov 7, 2008
English to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / song lyrics
English term or phrase: f the man
Hi, I need some clarification about the following sentence (taken from an interview or an article by Mark Ecko published on 'Royal' magazine in 2006, as quoted in the book I am translating:

"Today the most disruptive voices are no longer the artists' voices being piped over the corporate airwaves [...] It's the voice of the pirate, the pirate has become the producer. The indy-punk '**f the man**' message is no longer a hook in song. It's scary. It's hungry. It's Godzilla. He's knocking on the door uninvited, ready for dessert".

I take this 'f the man' to be "f*** the man", as in the foul four-letter word, am I right? Do you have any references as to any indy-punk songs containing this 'hook'?

Thanks in advance for your help :-)
Adele Oliveri
Italy
Local time: 00:28
English translation:[explanation]
Explanation:
I'm not sure that this is literally meant as a quote from a song here. It sounds more like this is the general attitude of that type of music. "Fuck the man" means: stand up to the establishment and those who have the power, don't let them exploit you, treat them with the disrespect they deserve.
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ntext
United States
Local time: 17:28
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Explanation:
I'm not sure that this is literally meant as a quote from a song here. It sounds more like this is the general attitude of that type of music. "Fuck the man" means: stand up to the establishment and those who have the power, don't let them exploit you, treat them with the disrespect they deserve.


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ntext
United States
Local time: 17:28
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
thank you all for your invaluable help!
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Asker: thank you ntext! your explanation is very clear indeed :-)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kathryn Litherland: yes, literally "fuck the man," but the writer is talking about the overall message of many punk songs, rather than any one particular lyric. I'd say the Sex Pistols "God Save the Queen" isa prototypical punk "fuck the man" song.
5 mins

agree  Melzie: my ref exactly - a general attitude indeed, much vaunted by anarchists.
8 mins

agree  Ruth Martinez: That's what I thought too: this refers to the message of punk music in general.
12 mins

agree  Jonathan MacKerron: politically correct = fuck the person
1 hr

agree  Ken Cox: With all the above, with some bemused reservations re Jonathan's comment. We don't want the female part of the establishment to get off scot-free ;-) , but 'the man' is a common term for 'those in authority'.
2 hrs

agree  Sheila Wilson: but, with all due respect, Ken, it's high time we stopped thinking of "authority" in "man-only" terms
3 hrs

agree  NancyLynn
5 hrs

agree  Demi Ebrite
17 hrs
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