their significator
English translation: their (=man or beast) planet ruling the Ascendant or first house
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| 4 +1 | planet ruling the Ascendant or first house |
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peer agreement (net): +1the planet which signifies the inquirer Explanation: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/signifi... (In a horary chart) the planet which signifies the inquirer, or the subject of the question. A card chosen to represent the inquirer in a tarot reading. the planet which signifies the inquirer www.oxforddictionaries is a really useful reference , if you need to look up English words - UK and US English given |
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peer agreement (net): +1planet ruling the Ascendant or first house Explanation: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/significator.php -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 28 mins (2014-08-27 16:40:49 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- I'm a bit confused about the "masculine" bit. Here the planet is likely to be the Moon (colour) which normally rules Cancer (and the 4th house) and the Moon is seen as feminine. But if the Ascendant is in Cancer then the Moon would be the ruling planet or significator. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 38 mins (2014-08-27 16:50:32 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- OK with the extra context provide by Taña (thanks!) it makes more sense. In general the first house is seen as masculine corresponding to Aries the ram, but here it's someone who has two planets that appear to be equally important but the one ruling the Ascendant is more important in the chart and especially so if it appears in the 1st house and here if the Moon is in the first house AND in Cancer it will be especially important. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 41 mins (2014-08-27 16:53:45 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- at least that's how I read it... not so sure about colour of cattle being decided by their ruling planet though:-) -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2014-08-27 17:27:52 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- yes, of course a chart can be drawn up for any living creature based on their place and time of birth... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 day16 hrs (2014-08-29 09:02:19 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Just looking at your actual question again "Whose significators? Is it about the cattle? I think "their" could refer to anyone human or beast, look at the semicolon position "...enquire after (about) ...any man.....the party's....so also if the question be for cattle; so here "their" could refer both to the cattle and "any man", in other words, whoever or whatever. It is simpler to read it as just referring to the cattle (their =plural) but I think the semicolon here means it could include the previous clause. Regarding Catherine's discussion entry: yes, the writing is confusing. "if a planet be in this house that hath signification of white," I would read as being the 4th house corresponding to 4th Zodiac sign Cancer, the sign ruled by the Moon. here it's just a "planet" it's not saying "signifactor" " if his significator be in the first house, and in a sign corresponding," I agree with Catherine that this is confusing. But I think it's saying that the significator planet is actually in the first house (and corresponding sign). So let's say the Ascendant is in Cancer and the planet ruling Cancer is the Moon but the Moon is in another house, (like an absent landlord) let's say the 10th; well then the planet of the significator (Moon ) won't be as important as it would be if it was in the 4th house (it's natural abode). Or, even more important, if it is actually positioned in the first house of the Ascendant (i.e. the Ascendant is Cancer, ruled by the Moon and the Moon IS in the 1st house) -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 days20 hrs (2014-08-31 12:30:09 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- Glad to have helped. It is certainly not easy to read so good luck with it. The fact the text is about the first house only is quite surprising. I'll have to have a look at it..The 1st in general the most important house as it is the house of the Ascendant (usually more important than Sun sign) but obviously position of planets in or not in the house also has a bearing on importance. |
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| Reference Reference information: The meaning whereof is this, that two planets equally dignified, one in the Ascendant, the other in the tenth house, you shall judge the planet in the Ascendant somewhat of more power to effect what he is significator of, than he that is in the tenth: do so in the rest as they stand in order, remembering that planets in angles do more forcibly show their effects. When we name the lord of the Ascendant, or significator..... p.49 .....of the querent, or thing quesited; we mean no other thing than that planet who is lord of that sign which ascends, or lord of that sign from which house the thing demanded is required; as if from the seventh house, the lord of that sign descending on the cusp is significator, and so in the rest: but of this in the ensuing judgements. Cosignificator is when you find another planet in aspect or with that planet who is the principal significator; this said planet shall hath signification more or less, and either assist or not in effecting the thing desired; and so hath something to do in the judgement, and ought to be considered: if a friendly planet, he notes good; if an infortune the contrary, viz., either the destruction of the thing, or disturbance in it. ...... if his significator be in the first house, and in a sign corresponding, the party’s apparel is white or grey, or somewhat near that colour, so also if the question be for cattle; when their significators are found in this house, it denotes them to be of that colour or near it: The house is masculine. This link consists of notes which may explain: http://home.btconnect.com/dhoulding/ca1.pdf |
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