what with all that job – saving, flying...

English translation: ...all that work...

06:08 Apr 10, 2005

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / children's literature

English term or phrase: what with all that job – saving, flying...

“Who are you calling poor, eh? I’m the one to be called poor here, what with all that job – saving, flying, searching, finding, helping. And for all that, I can’t even get what belongs to me by right."

Dear native English speakers!
Please advise on the second sentense, especially on the specified part of it. I'm not sure if it sounds good enough, or maybe I should transform it somehow.

The context:
This speech belongs to an ill-tempered crow who thinks she suffers too much for her efforts. That's why she likes to whimper and complain whenever she can. However, she's not so bad, for she found and saved a girl who was in trouble. But now she wants a reward.

Andrew Vdovin KudoZ activity Questions: 3923 (2 open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 3924
Local time: 03:37

Selected answer:...all that work...

Explanation:
or all those jobs. "All that job" doesn't sound right.

I think "I'm, the one who should be called poor here" would be an improvement.

Otherwise I think it's fine.

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Note added at 2 hrs 15 mins (2005-04-10 08:23:46 GMT)
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\"I\'m the one...\" (no comma)

Selected response from:

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:37

Grading comment

Thank you for all your suggestions, Jack! Thanks everybody!!!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

4 +11

...all that work...

Jack Doughty

5 +1

end: what rightly belongs to me

yne

explanation

Aimee

I’m the one to be called poor here, with all that work I'm doing - saving, flying..

TranslatonatoR

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

29 mins confidence:

what with all that job – saving, flying... I’m the one to be called poor here, with all that work I'm doing - saving, flying..

Explanation:
1. If anyone here is poor, then its me, with all that work I do -saving, flying, searching, finding, and helping.

2. "If anyone here is poor, then its me, with all saving, flying, searching, finding, and helping."

The word "poor" seems kind of odd though in the context with saving and helping

TranslatonatoR
Local time: 16:37
Native speaker of:

Russian

29 mins confidence:

what with all that job – saving, flying... explanation

Explanation:
“Who are you calling poor, eh? I’m the one who should be called poor here, with those many jobs – saving, flying, searching, finding, helping. And for all that I do, I can’t even get what belongs to me by right."

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Note added at 30 mins (2005-04-10 06:38:34 GMT)
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or \"with all the jobs that I do\"

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Note added at 32 mins (2005-04-10 06:41:02 GMT)
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however you would want to change this part; \"And for all that I do\" to
\"and for all that\"

Aimee
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

22 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +11

what with all that job – saving, flying...

...all that work...

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 518

Grading comment

Thank you for all your suggestions, Jack! Thanks everybody!!!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

TranslatonatoR: Sorry Jack didn't see ya.

9 mins

-> OK. thanks. I think "poor" here is good, it's used in the sense of "to be pitied", which is quite normal.

agree

Kevin Kelly

1 hr

-> Thank you.

agree

Deborah do Carmo

4 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

Robert Donahue (X)

5 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

tappi_k

6 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

Laurel Porter (X): Definitely correct about the sentence in question. However, I would suggest recasting the first two to produce something like "What do you mean poor xxx? It should be poor me, what with all this work - " etc. It's not "call me poor" unless we mean money.

8 hrs

-> Thank you. How about "You should be calling me 'poor crow!'"

agree

Alp Berker

9 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

RHELLER: Right Jack! for all the work I've done! -

10 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

Cristina Santos

15 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

Andrew Patrick

16 hrs

-> Thank you.

agree

Refugio: You should be calling me poor crow ... can't even get what is fairly due to me"

1 day 18 hrs

-> Thank you.

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

what with all that job – saving, flying... end: what rightly belongs to me

Explanation:
and the end part: "what rightly belongs to me" would sound less clumsy.

yne
Local time: 21:37
Native speaker of:

English

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