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beyond personality

English translation: yet without personality

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English term or phrase:beyond personality
Selected answer:yet without personality
Entered by: Christopher Crockett

12:46 Jul 22, 2009
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Religion
English term or phrase: beyond personality
The Spirit comes to us himself. We do not receive some of him or need a topping-up from time to time. Scripture never talks about some Holy Spirit or more Holy Spirit. On the day of Pentecost each person received the Holy Spirit – not just a little bit of him. He is the third Person of the Trinity – ***beyond personality***, in fact – and he is the one we are given. Similarly, we are promised Christ’s presence wherever we meet in his name. He is there – not just a foot or finger but, by his infinite omnipresence, his full being.
Ana Juliá
Spain
Local time: 10:59
yet without personality
Explanation:
Note the play on the repetition of "person...personality".

"He is the third *Person* of the Trinity, yet he is without *personality*."

Referring to the Holy Spirit as "he" strikes me as a bit strange... especially if "he" is beyond personality.

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-07-22 13:21:48 GMT)
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By convention, the "He"s and "His"es in the last two sentences of your text should be capitalized, since the antecedent of the pronoun is the Second Person of the Trinity.

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Note added at 5 days (2009-07-27 13:45:16 GMT)
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Here's the OED:

PERSONALITY
I. Personal nature or quality; an instance of this.

1. a. The quality, character, or fact of being a person, as distinct from an animal, thing, or abstraction; the quality which makes a being human. Obs.

3. a. A person, esp. one considered as the possessor of individual characteristics or qualities. Also: a being resembling or having the nature of a person, esp. by having self-awareness or consciousness.


The Holy Spirit, third "Person" of the Trinity, is without "The quality, character, or fact of being a person."
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Christopher Crockett
Local time: 04:59
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5 +5yet without personality
Christopher Crockett
4 +2transcending the limits of our human condition
Neil Mann
3 +2beyond the existence as a human being
Yasutomo Kanazawa
1transcendent(al)
Alexander Ryshow


  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
transcendent(al)


Explanation:
otherworldly

Alexander Ryshow
Belarus
Local time: 11:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 11
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
beyond the existence as a human being


Explanation:
I believe the Holy Spirit (or the Holy Ghost) is the third person of the Trinity besides the Father and the Son. The holy Spirit is thought to be part of God which forms us as a human being.

Yasutomo Kanazawa
Japan
Local time: 17:59
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in category: 31

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Egil Presttun: The Holy Spirit is not a person.
28 mins
  -> Thank you Egil for you comment.
agree  Christopher Crockett: Well, Egil, the Holy Spirit is a "person" --as Ana's text says-- but it/he is a "Person."
23 hrs
  -> Thank you Christopher
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
transcending the limits of our human condition


Explanation:
The idea is that the Holy Spirit comes to us entire, and brings with it a dimension that transcends anything that we can conceive of as human.

Neil Mann
Finland
Local time: 11:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Shera Lyn Parpia
1 hr
agree  Christopher Crockett
5 days
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +5
yet without personality


Explanation:
Note the play on the repetition of "person...personality".

"He is the third *Person* of the Trinity, yet he is without *personality*."

Referring to the Holy Spirit as "he" strikes me as a bit strange... especially if "he" is beyond personality.

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-07-22 13:21:48 GMT)
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By convention, the "He"s and "His"es in the last two sentences of your text should be capitalized, since the antecedent of the pronoun is the Second Person of the Trinity.

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Note added at 5 days (2009-07-27 13:45:16 GMT)
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Here's the OED:

PERSONALITY
I. Personal nature or quality; an instance of this.

1. a. The quality, character, or fact of being a person, as distinct from an animal, thing, or abstraction; the quality which makes a being human. Obs.

3. a. A person, esp. one considered as the possessor of individual characteristics or qualities. Also: a being resembling or having the nature of a person, esp. by having self-awareness or consciousness.


The Holy Spirit, third "Person" of the Trinity, is without "The quality, character, or fact of being a person."

Christopher Crockett
Local time: 04:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Thank you
Notes to answerer
Asker: what is it meant by "personality"? The condition of being a person, or the qualities of character of a person?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  d_vachliot (X)
18 mins
  -> Thanks, d_.
agree  Egil Presttun
18 mins
  -> Thanks, Egil.
agree  George C.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, solar.
agree  Phong Le
13 hrs
  -> Thanks, Phong Le.
agree  Translator-21
2 days 1 hr
  -> Thanks, Adnan.
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