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15:20 Jun 29, 2007
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History / Templars' history
English term or phrase: the Yuhanna translation in the Greek language
The Templars seemed to have disappeared from the history until 1804; when Bernard-Raymond Fabré Palaprat became Grand Master. Truly interesting is an accidental discovery he made in 1814… In one of the bookstalls along the river Seine in Paris, he came upon a handwritten Bible of ///the Yuhanna translation in the Greek language.///

Is Yuhanna the translator, or some dialect or language ?

Thanks for your help.
Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
New Caledonia
Local time: 00:40

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4 +2John
Pierre Gehenne
2Britannica says (not for points)
Jonathan MacKerron

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the yuhanna translation in the greek language

I think the text means a translation in Greek of the Book of John (Johannes in German, Yuhannen in Sanscrit, etc...)

    Reference: http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/yahy...
Pierre Gehenne
Local time: 15:40
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 8

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agree  Jonathan MacKerron: coincides with my Wicki reference
1 min
  -> Thanks John, but the sentence is a bit odd if my guess is correct, don't you think?

agree  Leonas Merkevičius: En 1814 Fabré-Palaprat a acquis d’un bouquiniste un manuscrit grec intitulé Evangelicon, version (largement hétérodoxe) de l’Evangile selon St. Jean. from: http://www.cesnur.org/religioni_italia/t/templari_01.htm
36 mins
  -> Thanks for confirming, Leonas

neutral  BusterK: il n'y a pas de raison que le texte en anglais n'emploie pas John dans ce cas !
1 hr
  -> c'est pas faux !
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the yuhanna translation in the greek language
Britannica says (not for points)

Maronite Church
one of the largest Eastern-rite communities of the Roman Catholic church, prominent especially in modern Lebanon; it is the only Eastern-rite church that has no non-Catholic or Orthodox counterpart. The Maronites trace their origins to St. Maron, or Maro (Arabic Mārūn), a Syrian hermit of the late 4th and early 5th centuries, and St. John Maron, or Joannes Maro *(Arabic, Yūḥanna Mārūn)*, patriarch of Antioch in 685–707, under whose leadership the invading Byzantine armies of Justinian II were routed in 684, making the Maronites a fully independent people.

Note added at 10 mins (2007-06-29 15:30:42 GMT)

Found this in Wicki, sounds plausible for your context

"L'exode des philosophes grecs donne lieu à d'intenses traductions du grec en syriaque et du syriaque vers l'arabe. Al-Farabi va fréquenter certains de ces traducteurs, comme Yuhanna (Johannes) ben Haylan."

Note added at 22 mins (2007-06-29 15:42:41 GMT)

@Pierre: sentence sounds fine to me, i.e. "Yahunna translation" means the translation by Yahunna, we also say the "King James translation" or "Luther translation" for example

Jonathan MacKerron
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agree  BusterK
1 hr

disagree  Leonas Merkevičius: Le texte meme est une traduction du turc: http://www.globalfreemasonry.com/knight_templars_03.html C'est pourquoi Evangile selon St. Jean est devenu Bible of Juhanna!
2 hrs
  -> OK, not translation by Yuhanna, but Yuhanna translation
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