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English to Mongolian translations [PRO]
Construction / Civil Engineering
English term or phrase: төсөвчин, Монгол Улсын тэргүүлэх төсөвчин
Энэ үгийг англиар юу гэж орчуулдаг вэ?
Batjavkhaa Batsaikhan
Local time: 04:34

Summary of answers provided
3 +1Head Budget officer/official (of Mongolia)
orhon int
4cost estimator
Tsogt Gombosuren



9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
cost estimator

Доорхи АНУ-ын засгийн газрын вэбсайтын тодорхойлолтыг үзвэл Монголын төсөвчний хийдэг ажил үүрэгтэй төстэй байна.

Монгол Улсын тэргүүлэх төсөвчин - The First Grade Cost Estimator of Mongolia

Note added at 44 mins (2009-02-08 18:00:59 GMT)

"тэргүүлэх" гэдэг нь өөрөө зэрэг юм уг нь. Үүнийг "тэргүүний" хэмээх шагналтай хольж хутгаж болохгүй.

Note added at 8 hrs (2009-02-09 01:49:29 GMT)

"Quantity Surveyor" гэхээр төсөвчинтэйгээ хэр дүйж байгаа юм болдоо? Төсөв гэдэг үгээ өмнө нь "cost estimation" гээд орчуулсан байгаа мөртлөө, төсөвчин нь болохоор "Quantity Surveyor" байдаг. Интернетээс үзэхэд зардал хянадаг, удирддаг хүнийг "Quantity Surveyor" гэдэг ажээ.

Note added at 8 days (2009-02-17 06:51:52 GMT)

"Quantity Surveyor"-ийн ажлын байрны тодорхойлолтыг интернетээс татаж үзэхэд төсөвчний хийдэг ажилтай мөн дүйдэг юм байна. Тэхээр "Leading Quantity Surveyor" гэхэд ямар ч асуудалгүй:

» Job description

A quantity surveyor manages all costs relating to building projects, from the initial calculations to the final figures. Surveyors seek to minimise the costs of a project and enhance value for money, while still achieving the required standards and quality. Many of these are specified by statutory building regulations, which the surveyor needs to understand and adhere to.

A quantity surveyor may work for either the client or the contractor, working in an office or on site. The title of the job may also be referred to as a construction cost consultant or commercial manager.
» Typical work activities

Typical tasks may include:

* managing costs on a wide variety of new building projects and structures, such as residential developments, sports stadiums, roads and bridges, schools, hospitals, offices and factories;
* undertaking costs analysis for repair and maintenance project work;
* assisting in establishing a client's requirements and undertaking feasibility studies;
* performing risk and value management and cost control;
* advising on procurement strategy;
* preparing tender and contract documents, including bills of quantities;
* identifying, analysing and developing responses to commercial risks;
* preparing and analysing costings for tenders;
* allocating work to subcontractors;
* providing advice on contractual claims;
* analysing outcomes and writing detailed progress reports;
* valuing completed work and arranging payments;
* maintaining awareness of the different building contracts in current use;
* understanding the implications of health and safety regulations.

Areas requiring more specialised knowledge include:

* offering advice on property taxation;
* providing post-occupancy advice, facilities management services and life cycle costing advice;
* assisting clients in locating and accessing additional and alternative sources of funds;
* enabling clients to initiate construction projects;
* advising on the maintenance costs of specific buildings.


    Reference: http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos006.htm
Tsogt Gombosuren
Local time: 13:34
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Native speaker of: Native in MongolianMongolian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Баярлалаа. Тэргүүний гэдгийн хувьд "First Grade" гэхээр их эвгүй сонстож байх юм. "Leading" гэвэл яаж байна? Соёлын тэргүүний ажилтан гэдгийг "A Leading Cultural Worker" гэж орчуулсан байсныг харж байсан. Эндээс харна уу. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wickham-Smith

Asker: http://nc-cudpu.gov.mn/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=73 ийм юм оллоо. Хамгийн сүүлд байгааг нь хараарай. Энэ талаар юу гэж бодож байна?

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Head Budget officer/official (of Mongolia)

Tösöv should be translated budget. It's more than cost estimation. It includes income as well as other aspects. In this case it seems (since it said "Mongol Ulsiin") to be someone responsible for the drawing up of, or perhaps making sure a project stays within, the State Budget, that's why I suggested officer. Perhaps the context will provide you with a better alternative than officer. Terguulex I'd say "leading", "head" or "main" for.
It seems that especially in the context of Construction projects, it's a position held by an engineer with special training in the making of and keeping to the construction project's budget - a "budgeter" (but that sounds clumsy), a budget officer, a budget official

Note added at 8 days (2009-02-17 08:01:25 GMT)

Terguulex is defined in Ch. Ganhuyag's Mongolian+English dictionary as "lead, head, chair". If you want to avoid the "alban tushaal" feeling, I think Head/Main Budget Manager/Consultant could work. The job description for a Quantity Surveyor" Tsogt found is helpful. In it, it also says: "The title of the job may also be referred to as a construction cost consultant or commercial manager."

Example sentence(s):
  • УСУГ-ын төсөвт ажлын төсөв болон гүйцэтгэлийг батлуулахдаа: 1. Төсөв зохиосон:Төсөвчин

    Reference: http://www.barilga.mn/newsmore.php?cid=2063
orhon int
Local time: 22:34
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Санал нийлэхгүй юм байна. "Тэргүүлэх" гэдэг нь цол юм. Тиймээс "Head Budget Officer/Official" гэхээр албан тушаал болчих гээд байна л даа.

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