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Portuguese translation: "Gótico"

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English term or phrase:GOTH
Portuguese translation:"Gótico"
Entered by: Elisa Capelão
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12:36 Mar 15, 2001
English to Portuguese translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
English term or phrase: GOTH
Eu sei que a traduo Godo, vandalo ou brbaro, mas no meu contexto nenhum destes termos me parece bem...
Context:
I am not a Goth, I just like dark clothing...

Back when I was a teenager every school had its Jane Smith: the girlwho, on reaching her fifteenth birthday, dyed her hair black, stopped going out in the sun and started wearing dodgy Goth makeup. Call her a Goth and she'd get really annoyed and sear blind that she wasn't. Point out that she looked like Ally Sheedy in 'The Breakfast Club' and she'd probably tell you to get stuffed but would be secretly pleased. But the ask her why, if she wasn't a Goth, why she insisted on looking like a Goth, listening to woefully crap Goth music and never going out in the sun, and she'd probably threaten violence...
Elisa Capelão
Local time: 16:11
Gótico
Explanation:
Maria Elisa:

Após essa aula da Ailish eu fico até envergonhado de mostrar minha carinha. Mas aqui no Brasil esse pessoal é (era?) chamado de Gótico.

Márcio
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M.Badra
Brazil
Local time: 14:11
Grading comment
Caro Márcio,
muito obrigada, o que eu precisava de saber mesmo,era que nome tinha sido dado a esse pessoal com gostos tão surrealistas. Consegui confirmar que de facto também aqui em Portugal se chamaram/chamam (os raríssimos exemplares que porventura ainda teimem em existir...)de "Góticos", logo a sua resposta está correcta e como foi o primeiro a indicar-ma os pontos vão para si. Os meus sinceros agradecimentos também a todos os outros colegas! Espero ter a oportunidade de retribuir a ajuda em breve.
Elisa
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Summary of answers provided
nagóticomonica dolago
nagrupo gótico, grupo "dark"KATIA PIROZZI-IOLE
nagóticomonica dolago
naGótico
M.Badra
naHere's more historiacl info (I got interested!)xxxLia Fail
naa style of the 80s/90s UK - more correctly GOTHICxxxLia Fail


  

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50 mins
a style of the 80s/90s UK - more correctly GOTHIC


Explanation:
I was living in Portugal at the time so I'm not an expert. However, Goth was a kind of look, way of thinking. Gothic would be more appropriate, as in Gothic style. See end of this submission.

They usually dressed like vampires. The colours were strictly limited to a lot of black, some white and red. The make-up was dramatic, lots of eyeliner, very red lips, etc. They stayed out of the sun, and cultivated a dead-white look. The hair was preferably black, possibly long, possible piled high with lots of loose tresses. They listeened top music like Nick Cave & the Bad seeds, and Sisters of Mercy. Their taste in home decor would be reminiscent of Dracula's castle. there may have been an interest in the macabre in a more sinister sense...

Here are some web refs:

See this one:
http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:www.darksites.com/souls/...

EXTRACT:
Many people ask me what "gothic" or "goth" is....and it's really not an easy thing to define, unless you're part of the subculture, and even then it's not always clear cut.

The most easily spotted characteristic of a goth is the love of the color black. That's not to say ALL people who wear black are goth....but it's very common. We also wear other dark, rich colors. Some tend to style their clothing along the lines of the Victorian era (my personal favorite), while some lean towards the PVC/latex/rubber wear...and a lot of jewelry: crosses, ankhs, skulls, coffins, roses, etc. Most goths try their best to be unique in their style of dress. A love of dark music, poetry, and art are also good clues. My particular faves are listed on the aforementioned sections of my site...

And look at this Google page:
http://www.google.de/search?q=Goths and their style&btnG=Goo...

And this one about their music:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&safe=off&q=Goths and their...

The best translation would use the 'GOTHIC' as in the architectural/artistic style/literature inspired by Mary Shelley, Lord Byron (18th Century), because that is the roots of the 'style'.

xxxLia Fail
Spain
Local time: 17:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 54
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58 mins
Here's more historiacl info (I got interested!)


Explanation:
Gothic-
Adj. Of or relating to the Goths or their language of a form of art, esp. Architecture, which flourished in Europe form the late 12the c. to the renaissance of or relating to a class of sensational novels of the late 18th and early 19th cc. Dealing with macabre or mysterious events in medieval setting

N. the gothic language, extant mainly in fragment of the bible translated by bishop wulfila, the sole representative of east Germanic gothic architecture gothic type- gothic architecture, a development of earliest Romanesque, spread from N.W.. France to flourish all over Europe in the 12th-15th cc. As far a field as Finland, Portugal and Sicily. Each country tended to produce a national style of gothic. Its distinguishing features are the pointed or ogival arch, elaborate stone vaulted roofs, clustered columns and rich stone carving. Development of technique led to high building with walls consisting very largely of windows, the great stresses being taken by the arches themselves, by pillars, and by buttresses, often flying buttresses. The gothic church or cathedral seeming to aspire eternally heavenwards, is naturally taken as a symbol of medieval spirituality. But gothic is a term applied also to castles, palaces and houses, as well as sculpture, painting and the minor arts (the word is her loosely used to mean "of the later middle ages"). in France, England and Germany, gothic can be seen mingled with Romanesque or merging into the later flamboyant style. A renewed appreciation of gothic appeared in the 18th and early 19th cc. Interest in the middle ages became a cardinal doctrine of romanticism and a symbol of revolt against rationalism. Scholarship developed, and 19th-c. Architects in Europe and north America began to produce gothic building of great correctness as well as some of high imagination. Gothic was also applied to municipal and industrial buildings, but by the 1880’s the movement gave way to greater eclecticism.~ taken from the new lexicon Webster's dictionary personnel views of gothic:

"Gothic" is a label with its own complex history. Although we use this term to describe buildings and objects whose forms are based upon the pointed arch or gothic novel, the word was actually unknown during the period. It was renaissance humanists who first used it as a derogatory term to describe what they saw as the "barbaric" architecture produced between the decline of classical civilization and its glorious rebirth in their own time. The word- and the style- came back into fashion only during the ***late eighteenth century. Gothic soon came to define not just an artistic style, but a whole historical epoch-"the gothic age." i.e.. French romantic writers like victor Hugo, it was a great age of faith. For English critics like john Ruskin, it was a socialist golden age of the craftsman before the onset of industrialization. For German expressionist artists and critics at the beginning of the twentieth century, the later, tortured forms of gothic seemed to prefigure their own modern angst. Viewed through so many different prisms in the past, it is hard indeed to define what gothic means in modern culture today.

Goth or gothic or what ever you really wish to call it has been around for a long time. The ***attraction to horror and death has been evident since the beginning of man. (Personal comment I wish to make for myself and my husband- these present day so called Goths who dress in black and lace are not really Goths. Real Goths lie in the ***love of death, in the architecture and literature and art and way of life- not in the way we dress. The great's, now they were Goths!*** Mary Shelley, lord Byron, Bram stoker, Edgar Allen Poe...the artists from the renaissance.) Goth, you must eat, breathe and drink. It's the individuality and darkness that we have for the dark places in the world and people. It's the ***colors of the night, candles in the dark, the monster beneath our beds. Horror began with the Goth. It was never about clothing. It was ***about death. You may be wondering why I am writing this particular bit of snivel but it's because I read an article in vogue and both myself and my husband have been seeing the wanna b's. They think it's about clothing and teeth. Teeth I must admit are great. (Vampire teeth), but someone wearing a white dress can be just as Goth as someone wearing a black dress. Just wished to put that in. Personally, my clothing (not that you probably care and like I do) ranges from dresses covered in flowers to black leather pants with biker boots with silver buckles along the sides. And I like wearing them all. As a "Goth" said in the article, that her clothing was a statement. Please! Sure, okay... I see it as an art form, I love wearing wild clothes, but don't say it's a statement, you're conforming to a generation and cliché. And no clothes are constricting! Wear what ever you want, not what fits in.

Learn something. For there is great literature out there that's old and dusty and creepy and leave your imagination to wonder what Frankenstein truly looked like. Movies are great, but the history is better... Broaden the mind and let the darkness truly scare you with your own imagination... And it saddens me when you mention Goth to the "straits" they think of kids with green hair, black velvet and leather and chains, not the era which made it so great and romantic...

And hey, who am I really to tell you can't wear black? I wear black, but don't say it's all you can wear! And get some back ground! Know your style, not someone else! Dark is cool. It's the color of the romantic... some say. But it's not the only color of death. Remember... Some places, the color of the dead is white.....

http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:www.natasha-epperson.com...


xxxLia Fail
Spain
Local time: 17:11
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1 hr
Gótico


Explanation:
Maria Elisa:

Após essa aula da Ailish eu fico até envergonhado de mostrar minha carinha. Mas aqui no Brasil esse pessoal é (era?) chamado de Gótico.

Márcio

M.Badra
Brazil
Local time: 14:11
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1 hr
gótico


Explanation:
Está fazendo referências à "tribo" gótica : seus hábitos, lugares que frequentam, música, e obviamente, à cor preta, preferida de se vestir.


    my own experience
monica dolago
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1 hr
gótico


Explanation:
Está fazendo referências à "tribo" gótica : seus hábitos, lugares que frequentam, música, e obviamente, à cor preta, preferida de se vestir.


    my own experience
monica dolago
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1 hr
grupo gótico, grupo "dark"


Explanation:
Olhe a definição de Goth em inglês e uma dica para você. Acho que no Brasil isso seria o estilo gótico, ou se diz mesmo Dark, como um culto.

"Audience: Goths, macabre fashion wearers
Click to connect: news:alt.gothic.fashion

This newsgroup is a gathering of people interested in the dark, the gloomy, and the macabre side of fashion.. Referring to themselves as "Goths," participants discuss their favorite (usually dark-colored) nail polish, hair coloring, makeup, clothing, leather, and other suitable accessories. An added bonus of regular participation is that hiding behind a computer screen keeps your skin away from the sun- a definite plus in the night-loving Goth scene."


Cultura, sociedade, grupo, clube "dark" ou gótico.


Ajudaria? Boa sorte.

Kátia


KATIA PIROZZI-IOLE
United States
Local time: 11:11
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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