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11:00 Feb 6, 2001
English to Russian translations [PRO]
English term or phrase: what could be made of what?
I have three materials(suede, serge, tweed) and three objects( 1)shoes or casulal jacket,2)a man's hard-wearing sports-jacket, 3)an ordinary soldier's uniform). I need to conect them. And I would be very glad if someone could explain in English, Latvian or Russian what are these materials.
alxnis
Local time: 13:24
Russian translation:See below.
Explanation:

Let me handle these one by one:

1. Suede

Definition from Webster’s:
kid or other leather finished with a soft, napped surface, on the flesh side or on the outer side after removal of a thin outer layer (= замша)

We can speak of «suede shoes», or «a suede jacket».

a) suede shoes

As an example, let me cite the famous rock’n’roll song we all know well, which was performed by Elvis Presley:

Well it's one for the money, two for the show
Three to get ready now go cat go

{Refrain}
But don't you step on my blue suede shoes
You can do anything but lay off of my blue suede shoes

The full text of the song is available at http://gunther.simplenet.com/v/data/bluesued.htm

b) suede jacket

This is just one of 1000+ search results::

“SUEDE JACKET Sophisticated country casual by Field & Stream. Wool check lining, Norfolk
back with tortoise shell Bakelite buttons. “
http://www.ballyhoovintage.com/women302.htm

2. Serge

Definition from Webster’s:
a twilled worsted or woolen fabric used esp. for clothing (= серж, костюм из сержа)

It is customary to speak of "a serge uniform". See some of the numerous the examples below:

Around 1950 the navy serge uniform was worn with red piping rather than the previous wide stripe. ...
http://www.bathpostalmuseum.org/Shop/S_Uniform_history/s_uni...

“... to us, dry cleaning job, and at that time we only had one brown serge uniform issued.
Some of the guys used to make extra money from the recruits.”
http://www.jkcc.com/dougroberts/depot.html


3. Tweed

Definitions from Webster’s

1. a coarse wool cloth in a variety of weaves and colors, either hand-spun and handwoven in Scotland or reproduced, often by machine, elsewhere. (= твид)
2. tweeds, garments made of this cloth.

Below please find some examples, which I found on the web for "tweed sport jacket":

His signature in his years in New Jersey was a heavy green tweed sport jacket,
white (sort of) shirt and nondescript tie, which he wore regardless of ...
http://econ.bgu.ac.il/facultym/klug/AdamKlug.htm

“It was cool in the evenings, so I wore a tweed sport jacket.“
http://thepaperhangers.com/techarticles/professional.html


Hope that this will be helpful.

Best regards,

Artyan

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artyan
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Local time: 03:24
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That was even little bit too much. Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
naSee below.artyan
nasuede = замша, serge = саржа, серж, tweed = твид
ttagir
naзамша, саржа, твидaosokin
na1.suede-ЪБНЫБ, serge-УБТЦБ(ЫЕМЛПЧЙУФБС ФЛБОШ ЙЪ ЛПФПТПК ЫШАФ РПДЛМБДЛХ ДМС ПДЕЦДЩ), tweed-ФЧЙДIola


  

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1.suede-ЪБНЫБ, serge-УБТЦБ(ЫЕМЛПЧЙУФБС ФЛБОШ ЙЪ ЛПФПТПК ЫШАФ РПДЛМБДЛХ ДМС ПДЕЦДЩ), tweed-ФЧЙД


Explanation:
Tas ir viss materials prieks susanas. Atvainojet par rakstisanu. Man nav latviesu burtas datora. Tu jau gan varesi parbaudit gramatinas sie vardi. Labi?

1. ФХЖМЙ Й=ЙМЙ ЧЩИПДОПК ЛПУФАН
2. hard-wearing sports jacket-НХЦУЛБС УРПТФЙЧОБС ЛХТФЛБ, БФТЙВХФ ЧЕТИОЕК ПДЕЦДЩ.
3. ПВЩЛОПЧЕООБС УПМДБФУЛБС ЖПТНБ


    skolas vardnicas
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49 mins
замша, саржа, твид


Explanation:
suede (n) - замша
1. Leather with a soft napped surface.
2. Fabric made to resemble suede.


Serge (n) – серж
A twilled cloth of worsted or worsted and wool, often used for suits.

Tweed (n) - твид

1. A coarse, rugged, often nubby woolen fabric made in any of various twill weaves and used chiefly for casual suits and coats.

И этих описаний следует, что:

Замша - для обуви. Саржа для костюмов. Твид больше подходит для костюмов и пальто, включая шинели.



aosokin
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2 hrs
suede = замша, serge = саржа, серж, tweed = твид


Explanation:
Please consider the following possibilities:

- shoes can be made of suede (замшевые ботинки), I never heard about tweed shoes. For heavy duty work in metallurgical plants they sometimes use shoes made of double serge (it badly transfers heat);

- CASUAL (not casuLal ???)(please recall that casual means also = отставной военный) jacket can be made of serge (серж - шерстяная костюмная ткань) - костюм из сержа or костюм из шерстяной ткани; if by casual your mean the interior jacket of so-called "triple" costume, then serge means саржа (подкладочная ткань с определенным блеском)and your jacket is made of the same tussie which was used for the _l_i_n_i_n_g_ of the whole costume (подкладка)

- a man's hard-wearing sports-jacket cab be made of both serge and ... tweed. At least tourists prefer tweed costums. But retired soldiers might use coats or jackets made of serge.

Finally, an ordinary soldier's uniform is never made of tweed, nor of suede. So you can leave only serge (woollen cloth or something lighter for European countries, e.g., Germany) for it if you mean by the serge шерстяную ткань.

Dr. Tagir S. Tagirov
Kazan State University


    Merriam Webster Coll.. Dict. (10th edit.)
    Lingvo 6.5, Oxford Large English Russian Dictionary
ttagir
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1 day 11 hrs
See below.


Explanation:

Let me handle these one by one:

1. Suede

Definition from Webster’s:
kid or other leather finished with a soft, napped surface, on the flesh side or on the outer side after removal of a thin outer layer (= замша)

We can speak of «suede shoes», or «a suede jacket».

a) suede shoes

As an example, let me cite the famous rock’n’roll song we all know well, which was performed by Elvis Presley:

Well it's one for the money, two for the show
Three to get ready now go cat go

{Refrain}
But don't you step on my blue suede shoes
You can do anything but lay off of my blue suede shoes

The full text of the song is available at http://gunther.simplenet.com/v/data/bluesued.htm

b) suede jacket

This is just one of 1000+ search results::

“SUEDE JACKET Sophisticated country casual by Field & Stream. Wool check lining, Norfolk
back with tortoise shell Bakelite buttons. “
http://www.ballyhoovintage.com/women302.htm

2. Serge

Definition from Webster’s:
a twilled worsted or woolen fabric used esp. for clothing (= серж, костюм из сержа)

It is customary to speak of "a serge uniform". See some of the numerous the examples below:

Around 1950 the navy serge uniform was worn with red piping rather than the previous wide stripe. ...
http://www.bathpostalmuseum.org/Shop/S_Uniform_history/s_uni...

“... to us, dry cleaning job, and at that time we only had one brown serge uniform issued.
Some of the guys used to make extra money from the recruits.”
http://www.jkcc.com/dougroberts/depot.html


3. Tweed

Definitions from Webster’s

1. a coarse wool cloth in a variety of weaves and colors, either hand-spun and handwoven in Scotland or reproduced, often by machine, elsewhere. (= твид)
2. tweeds, garments made of this cloth.

Below please find some examples, which I found on the web for "tweed sport jacket":

His signature in his years in New Jersey was a heavy green tweed sport jacket,
white (sort of) shirt and nondescript tie, which he wore regardless of ...
http://econ.bgu.ac.il/facultym/klug/AdamKlug.htm

“It was cool in the evenings, so I wore a tweed sport jacket.“
http://thepaperhangers.com/techarticles/professional.html


Hope that this will be helpful.

Best regards,

Artyan




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