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06:58 Jan 16, 2001
English to Russian translations [PRO]
Science
English term or phrase: smoke sauna
A Finnish smoke sauna - how is it called in Russian? Is there a special term for it?

Thank you in advance, best.
olwen
Local time: 15:53
Russian translation:smoke sauna
Explanation:
Баня по-черному - means a sauna without a chimney
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Eugene Yutkevich
Local time: 14:53
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Summary of answers provided
na +2smoke saunaEugene Yutkevich
na +1финская баня «по-черному»artyan
na +1баня по черномуAlexander Kudriavtsev
na +1черная баня
Natalie
na +1баня, которую топят по "чёрному"mashkov
naсауна "по-черному"xxxDm_Ch


  

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9 mins peer agreement (net): +2
smoke sauna


Explanation:
Баня по-черному - means a sauna without a chimney

Eugene Yutkevich
Local time: 14:53
PRO pts in pair: 4
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sapienti

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15 mins peer agreement (net): +1
баня, которую топят по "чёрному"


Explanation:
баня, которую топят по "чёрному", т.е. часть дыма или весь попадает во внутрь бани, когда для топки применяются дрова.

mashkov
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Local time: 07:53

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17 mins peer agreement (net): +1
черная баня


Explanation:
Обширное описание белой и черной бани можно найти на интернетовской странице http://spravki.net.ru/bath/g1.html

Natalie
Poland
Local time: 13:53
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 28933

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1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
баня по черному


Explanation:
As a variant черная баня, though the first seems to me better.


    Reference: http://spravki.net.ru/bath/g1.html
Alexander Kudriavtsev
Local time: 15:53
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in BelarusianBelarusian
PRO pts in pair: 24

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2 hrs
сауна "по-черному"


Explanation:
As I see it баня по-черному" is something tradionally Russian, with a pechka, and so on.
Here a Finnish sauna is meant, i.e.
"A traditional Finnish SMOKE SAUNA warming up.
It has no chimney and smoke comes out trough a hole in the wall called RAAPPAANAA.
When bathing there is no more fire or smoke." (see http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1895/savsau.html)
My search in the web provides a number of example of literal translation (which, again, is needed to distinguish from our banya po-chernomu), often with the adverb "po-chernomu" in inverted commas:
http://www.gamaun.ru/tours/t_helsakvakar.phtml?idtour=20

http://www.mayakinfo.ru/firms/FAKEL/5637.asp

http://www.eurosoyz.ru/finland/kuopio/index.html

etc.

It looks quit dark inside, but because of the smoke it is absolutely sterile and clean.


xxxDm_Ch
Local time: 15:53
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 101

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16 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
финская баня «по-черному»


Explanation:
finskaya banya "po-chernomu"

In a “smoke sauna”, the steam becomes smoke-scented because there is no partition between the steam chamber and the fire. If such a partition exists, then the sauna will be «баня по-белому» (banya po-belomu).

In the traditional Russian sauna, the smoke goes completely to the steam chamber, because there is no chimney. This was the only way, in which the Russian bath worked for a great number of years. (See http://www.banbas.ru/podsh/n4/index6.html)

The traditional Finnish bath has a chimney, and is, therefore, a “banya po-belomy”. I do not know to what extent (fully or partially) the smoke will mix with the steam in the Finnish smoke sauna. If fully, then it is not different very much from the traditional Russian bath. If it mixes partially, then we got a slightly different technology. Moreover, the type of the wood burnt in the Finnish sauna may be different from what is more common in Russia. Herbs may also be used in order to change the scent of the smoke, or even increase its healing powers.

In order to be prudent and take all these potential differences into account, I would suggest the option of writing «финская баня «по-черному» (finskaya banya “po-chernomy”). Using the word «финская» will be another way to address the concern, which is raised in Mr. Chursinov’s answer regarding such non-Finnish concepts as “pechka”, etc. «Финская баня» («finskaya banya») is quite common in the Russian language, along with other types, such as «турецкая баня» (“turetskaya banya”), etc.

Best regards.



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artyan
United States
Local time: 04:53
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in pair: 239

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