pre-primer words

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14:13 May 16, 2018
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English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
English term or phrase: pre-primer words
In a study for a school child with special needs:

At this time, XXX can expressively identify all pre-primer, primer, and most first grade sight words.

Pre-primer words are words that a child can learn before his very first reading book.
Primer words are words that a child would learn in his very first reading book.
Sight words are words that children are taught to recognize without phonetics (without "sounding out" the words)
Alan Lambson
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1palabras para la precartilla
Manuela Huck
3 +1palabras (familiares a simple vista que se deben conocer) antes del parvulario/preescolar
Sara Fairen
3vocabulario (previo) fundamental
Chema Nieto Castañón
Summary of reference entries provided
Pre-primer (words)
Toni Castano

  

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palabras para la precartilla


Explanation:
...todas las palabras de la vista para la precartilla, cartilla y la mayoría del primer grado.


    Reference: http://https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=950TQk-t7JsC&pg=...
Manuela Huck
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agree  JohnMcDove: Me quedaría con "precartilla"...
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palabras (familiares a simple vista que se deben conocer) antes del parvulario/preescolar


Explanation:
Creo que "primer" y "pre-primer" correspondería a pre-kindergarten y kindergarten

… puede identificar todas las palabras familiares a simple vista que deberían conocerse antes y durante el parvulario/preescolar, y la mayor parte de las de primer grado.


“Sight words” serían palabras reconocibles a simple vista/ a primera vista.

https://www.understood.org/es-mx/learning-attention-issues/c...

Palabras no decodificables: Palabras que no pueden pronunciarse siguiendo las reglas fonéticas. Necesitan memorizarse para que sean reconocibles instantáneamente. En ocasiones se conocen como “palabras familiares a simple vista (sight words )” o “star words”.



http://www.sightwords.com/sight-words/dolch/
The Dolch Sight Words list is the most commonly used set of sight words […] The Dolch words are commonly divided into groups by grade level, ranging from pre-kindergarten to third grade, with a separate list of nouns. There are a total of 315 Dolch Sight Words.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolch_word_list



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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs (2018-05-17 16:14:30 GMT)
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Es cierto que, como ha dicho Manuela y se apunta también en el enlace de Toni, "primer" significa literalmente "cartilla". Mi propuesta es más bien una perífrasis/actualización del significado, que se me ocurrió al leer este comentario en el Merriam-Webster sobre que su uso ha quedado un poco obsoleto. Pensé que así se entendería mejor el sentido.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/primer
Definition of primer

1 : a small book for teaching children to read
[...]
Did You Know?
Primers were once a standard part of every child's education. The first primer printed in North America, The New England Primer (ca. 1690), was typical; it contained many quotations from the Bible and many moral lessons, and the text was accompanied by numerous woodcut illustrations. We no longer use the word in early education, but it's widely used in everyday speech.

Sara Fairen
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JohnMcDove: También... Y bien explicado... :-) O se podría usar "básicas" como en el enlace que aporta Toni. El "reto" está en armar la oración. Quizá con "precartilla" se simplifique mejor. /./ Creo que nuestros abuelos usaban el "Catón" como "primer". :-)
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  -> Gracias John. Sí, "sight words" serían palabras básicas/de uso frecuente/ familiares, que se deben reconocer a simple vista. Sobre "primer", voy a poner una nota más larga :-) / jaja, cierto :-)
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vocabulario (previo) fundamental


Explanation:
This is a particularly complex to translate bit as the original relates to Dolch-like charts of English sight words. I would simplify the translation -in lack of any Spanish specific equivalent- to

En este momento, XXX es capaz de identificar expresamente la mayoría de palabras básicas correspondientes a primer grado (reconocimiento global, sin lectura) así como el resto de vocabulario previo fundamental.




Chema Nieto Castañón
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Reference comments


4 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Pre-primer (words)

Reference information:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/education_peda...

Toni Castano
Spain
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Native speaker of: Spanish
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Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  JohnMcDove: Buean aportación, como de costumbre. Como le digo a Sara, la cuestión está en formular la oración para que fluya bien. :-)
20 hrs
  -> Gracias John.
agree  Natalia Pedrosa
1 day 11 hrs
  -> Gracias Natalia.
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