fresque patinée

English translation: frescoes with a patina of time/age

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French term or phrase:fresque patinée
English translation:frescoes with a patina of time/age
Entered by: suzanneb111

15:27 Feb 8, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
French term or phrase: fresque patinée
il s'agit d'un descriptif d'oeuvres peintes du 19e siècle... puis-je dire : "patinated frescoes", ou y a t'il une meilleure façon de le dire ?
merci beaucoup d'avance pour votre aide :)
suzanneb111
France
Local time: 19:47
frescoes with a patina of time/age
Explanation:
I can't recall ever seeing "patinated frescoes" and there are only 5 Ghits (all relating to the same church. It makes it seem like the frescoes were delinberately patinated which I assume is not the case here.
I think this is more commonly described as
a patina of time or age, or
marked/characterised by a patina of time/age or even
weathered by a patina...in some cases
the patina usually caused by the darkening of varnish which clouds the original colours underneath...
or here "the mixture of glue, soot, dust and incense..."
https://books.google.ie/books?id=EHk4DgAAQBAJ&pg=PT46&lpg=PT...

https://books.google.ie/books?id=hzZ-M3UeBRQC&pg=PT4&lpg=PT4...



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frescoes with a patina of time/age


Explanation:
I can't recall ever seeing "patinated frescoes" and there are only 5 Ghits (all relating to the same church. It makes it seem like the frescoes were delinberately patinated which I assume is not the case here.
I think this is more commonly described as
a patina of time or age, or
marked/characterised by a patina of time/age or even
weathered by a patina...in some cases
the patina usually caused by the darkening of varnish which clouds the original colours underneath...
or here "the mixture of glue, soot, dust and incense..."
https://books.google.ie/books?id=EHk4DgAAQBAJ&pg=PT46&lpg=PT...

https://books.google.ie/books?id=hzZ-M3UeBRQC&pg=PT4&lpg=PT4...



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Note added at 1 day 19 hrs (2018-02-10 11:21:40 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 18:47
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many thanks for your precious help!!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Catherine Demaison-Doherty: Yes, showing "the patina of time". Unless, depending on your context, a "faux" patina has been applied, but since the works date back to the 19th century, I imagine that is unlikely.
28 mins
  -> Thank you! Yes, a "faux" patina is unlikely here

agree  Daryo: it's unlikely that the patina was artificially added, although the ST might give that impression ...
3 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree  Christopher Crockett: Is "patinated" even a word?I've never seen it. And an artifical (i.e., deliberately induced) patina on a 19th c. painting would imply an intention to deceive for the purposes of fraud, it seems to me. Varnish darkened with age is the most likely culprit.
13 hrs
  -> Many thanks:-) Yes, "patinated", the word and concept, seems very unlikely
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