fonction

English translation: function

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French term or phrase:fonction
English translation:function

13:40 Dec 5, 2000
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: fonction
I have a text that is literally full of terms such as "Fonction commerciale sédentaire", "Fonction commerciale route",
"Fonction Marketing Centrale" "Fonction Marketing Territoire" .... the list goes on forever. My problem is that while sometimes they are referring to a whole department, sometimes they are clearly talking about one person. The sentence structure is already very long and heavy so I'm looking for a nice short word/phrase that can express the ambiguous "fonction" in English. Can we simply say "function"? Any suggestions would be very welcome!
Clair Pickworth
France
Local time: 07:51
function
Explanation:
you will want to phrase this as follows:

Central Marketing function; Territorial Marketing function; Inside Sales function (= "commerciale sédentaire); Outside Sales function (= commerciale route)

Note the phrasing in the following example (from LGDT):

commerce
gestion de la commercialisation


marketing function (b)
A major economic activity which is inherent in the marketing process, and which tends to become specialized through a continuous division or labor. (d)
Contexte(s): Marketing functions, include buying, selling, transporting, storing, grading, financing, entrepreneurial risk taking, and marketing information. (b)


fonction commerciale n f (c)
Fonction de l'entreprise ayant en charge la mise en oeuvre de la démarche commerciale. (gh)
Note(s): On rencontre de plus en plus la forme «fonction marketing» avec ellipse de la préposition «de» comme pour d'autres termes ainsi formés tels que «recherche marketing» et beaucoup d'autres semblables par similitude avec les formes elliptiques actuelles du vocabulaire technique. (h)

Synonyme(s):
fonction de marketing n f (h)
Note(s): Le marketing, dans la nouvelle optique, peut être considéré comme une fonction fondamentale, prenant place parmi les fonctions générales de l'entreprise. La fonction commerciale ((comprend)) l'ensemble des tâches spécifiques reliées à la commercialisation. Elle englobe et anime un certain nombre de fonctions, telles que : - planning du marketing, - fonction commerciale proprement dite (vente, service, clients, service après-vente, personnel commercial sédentaire et mobile, distribution, merchandising, etc.), - promotion des ventes, - publicité, - études et recherches commerciales, notamment études de marché, de la concurrence, du comportement des consommateurs, etc. - études et recherches de nouveaux produits et amélioration des produits existants. (ac)



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Yolanda Broad
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Summary of answers provided
naFunction; division; department; group; team.
Luis Luis
nafunction
Dana Carciumaru
nafunction
Yolanda Broad
nafunction, post, duty
Victor Foster
na"Office"
Louise Atfield
nafunction, department
Valentini Mellas


  

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22 mins
Function; division; department; group; team.


Explanation:
Depending on the context, but it seems that these might fit well with your presented cases.

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Luis M. Luis

Luis Luis
United States
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59 mins
function


Explanation:
he general end or purpose sought to be accomplished by a department or organizational unit
DEF - A natural or usual duty to be performed by a person within an organization.
DEF - [Activity] carried out by an employee in a position, such as providing service to the public, supervision, personal or central services


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Dana Carciumaru
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1 hr
function


Explanation:
you will want to phrase this as follows:

Central Marketing function; Territorial Marketing function; Inside Sales function (= "commerciale sédentaire); Outside Sales function (= commerciale route)

Note the phrasing in the following example (from LGDT):

commerce
gestion de la commercialisation


marketing function (b)
A major economic activity which is inherent in the marketing process, and which tends to become specialized through a continuous division or labor. (d)
Contexte(s): Marketing functions, include buying, selling, transporting, storing, grading, financing, entrepreneurial risk taking, and marketing information. (b)


fonction commerciale n f (c)
Fonction de l'entreprise ayant en charge la mise en oeuvre de la démarche commerciale. (gh)
Note(s): On rencontre de plus en plus la forme «fonction marketing» avec ellipse de la préposition «de» comme pour d'autres termes ainsi formés tels que «recherche marketing» et beaucoup d'autres semblables par similitude avec les formes elliptiques actuelles du vocabulaire technique. (h)

Synonyme(s):
fonction de marketing n f (h)
Note(s): Le marketing, dans la nouvelle optique, peut être considéré comme une fonction fondamentale, prenant place parmi les fonctions générales de l'entreprise. La fonction commerciale ((comprend)) l'ensemble des tâches spécifiques reliées à la commercialisation. Elle englobe et anime un certain nombre de fonctions, telles que : - planning du marketing, - fonction commerciale proprement dite (vente, service, clients, service après-vente, personnel commercial sédentaire et mobile, distribution, merchandising, etc.), - promotion des ventes, - publicité, - études et recherches commerciales, notamment études de marché, de la concurrence, du comportement des consommateurs, etc. - études et recherches de nouveaux produits et amélioration des produits existants. (ac)



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Yolanda Broad
United States
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Many thanks for your help in confirming the term.Much appreciated

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7 hrs
function, post, duty


Explanation:
Just some possibilities which may work in different contexts.


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Victor Foster
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17 hrs
"Office"


Explanation:
A simple look in my Harrap French-English dictionary shows that, among the possible translations, you also find the word "office". In my opinion, this would be a perfect word for you to use in this context, since it may mean a whole department as well as one person. For instance "Central Marketing Office", "Business Office- Travel", "Business Office- In House", etc.

Incidentally, the word "fonctionnaire" ("civil servant" or "official") comes from "fonction" and gives you an idea of the meaning of "fonction". A "fonctionnaire" works at a "fonction".

You could also use the words "duty" or "function", which would be good translations for "fonction" alone, but in view of the context, I think that "office" would be better.

Louise Atfield
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Yolanda Broad
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18 hrs
function, department


Explanation:
Depends on context as other have pointed out.


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Valentini Mellas
Greece
Local time: 08:51
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