Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
les frais de déplacement en
English translation:
travel expenses in/within/inside
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Deborah Workman
Nov 19, 2004 02:26
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les frais de déplacement en
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From the phrase:
Taux journaliers (incluent les frais de déplacement en France métropolitaine)
Would this be travel expenses within? Relocation expenses to? IExpenses while in? Rate differential for? Something else?
Taux journaliers (incluent les frais de déplacement en France métropolitaine)
Would this be travel expenses within? Relocation expenses to? IExpenses while in? Rate differential for? Something else?
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in Metropolitan France
You may simply use "in", however,
Short of context, this does not appear to mean relocation expenses or a differencial. I think there is a fixed daily rate which comprises travel expenses in Metropolitan France only.
"while in" would better apply in the specific circumstances where the travel was only taking place in Metropolitan France or in other French territories or departments (DOM/TOM).
"within" is more general, and may be used universally if the object of the sentence is to differenciate the travel/ling expenses in metropolitan France from expenses anywhere else;
Short of context, this does not appear to mean relocation expenses or a differencial. I think there is a fixed daily rate which comprises travel expenses in Metropolitan France only.
"while in" would better apply in the specific circumstances where the travel was only taking place in Metropolitan France or in other French territories or departments (DOM/TOM).
"within" is more general, and may be used universally if the object of the sentence is to differenciate the travel/ling expenses in metropolitan France from expenses anywhere else;
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: or inside Metropolitan France, but within is fine
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Comment: "Thanks, traviata. Your answer got to the heart of my problem which was the scope/nature of travel expenses to be included in the daily rate."
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travel expenses
sometimes also travelling expenses.
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\"ncluding travel expenses in France
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Thierry LOTTE
: or : travel fees
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Jean-Claude Gouin
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Patrice
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Hacene
: absolutely, but to Thierry, fees are not refunded, whereas expenses are to be claimed back and refunded
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francofille
: Yes, and though the translation itself is correct, the idea of reimbursing daily travel expenses to get to work (like in France with the Carte Orange) is definitely not a direct translation in the US!!
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Unless you are coming from the US and are traveling in France for business. In that case the trip (by car/subway/cab) from your hotel to the office/lab/etc. is considered to be part of the expenses.
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remy
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Shaila Kamath
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Claudine Seynaeve
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I think it depends on the home base of those concerned... (read on)
For example, if this concerns people living and working in "metropolitan France" than it means that the rates are not only for trips abroad but ALSO applicable they are "en déplacement" within Met. France itself.
Daily rates (per diem) (including for business trips within MF itself)
If the people are living and working elsewhere, we would need to know where to be sure of our answer....
Daily rates (per diem) (including for business trips within MF itself)
If the people are living and working elsewhere, we would need to know where to be sure of our answer....
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see comment below...
As CMJ says, it does depend a bit on the 'home base' of the person doing the travelling; however, my inclination with that 'en' would be to render it as 'within' --- it seems to me as if they are specifically excluding travel expenses outside France (whichever direction they're in!)
This type of phrase is often used when talking about carriage charges, etc., and I feel convinced that 'within' is needed to convey the same sense of limitation that I believe is intended by the original
"Postal rates within the UK are lower than those to the rest of Europe" does NOT mean the same as "Postal rates in the UK are lower than those in the rest of Europe"
This type of phrase is often used when talking about carriage charges, etc., and I feel convinced that 'within' is needed to convey the same sense of limitation that I believe is intended by the original
"Postal rates within the UK are lower than those to the rest of Europe" does NOT mean the same as "Postal rates in the UK are lower than those in the rest of Europe"
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travelling expenses(or costs)
"les frais de déplacement" = travelling expenses (or costs).
ref: Collins Robert French-English 21st Century Edition.
ref: Collins Robert French-English 21st Century Edition.
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