Feb 24, 2005 13:18
19 yrs ago
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French term

vous pouvez déduire les frais de la TVA payés sur vos propres ventes

Non-PRO French to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general) Web-site for association offering business support.
Looking for some help understanding this sentence. I get what this service is basically offering - easy recovery for companies of VAT paid on purchases of goods and services while abroad. However, what I don't get is the 'payés sur vos propres ventes' bit - surely it would be 'achats', not 'ventes'? This doesn't seem to fit with my understanding of how VAT works - maybe someone can enlighten me.

Here's the whole thing in context:

"Remboursement TVA

Remboursement de la TVA payée en Suisse




"De quoi s’agit-il ?

Lors de vos voyages d’affaires vous avez effectué des dépenses en Suisse. Dans votre pays, vous pouvez déduire les frais de la TVA payés sur vos propres ventes. En Suisse vous ne pouvez le faire que si vous êtes enregistrés dans un bureau qui vous représente, soit une fiduciaire, soit un agent.
Comment ?

Vous nous remettez vos factures
Nous demandons vos remboursements
Après déduction d’une commission, nous vous transférons les remboursements"

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Feb 27, 2005:
Thanks to everyone for helping me get to grips with this one.
CMJ_Trans (X) Feb 24, 2005:
and if it should have been d�duire les frais (de vos voyages) de la TVA PAYEE sur....???
Leveleki Feb 24, 2005:
I understand what you (and our other colleague) are saying but I was referring to the original text where it says: "Dans votre pays, vous pouvez d�duire les frais de la TVA pay�s sur vos propres ventes." Hence my comment.
Non-ProZ.com Feb 24, 2005:
Hi Akos, Thanks for your suggestion. However, there is no question of exports here. It is simply referring to the situation where a person is travelling in Switzerland on business and spending money there (including the VAT portion) and they are able to reclaim the VAT on their return (through this service).

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): vous pouvez d�duire les frais de la TVA pay�s sur vos propres ventes
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you can deduct VAT paid from the VAT collected on your sales

This is how I read it.
When you're visiting Geneva, Charlotte, normally you will "lose" the VAT paid on all your expenses which you would normally claim back if in the UK.
By registering with these bods, they'll claim on you behalf and pay 10% back to you ;-)


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Note added at 17 mins (2005-02-24 13:36:29 GMT)
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\"...your behalf...\"
Peer comment(s):

agree Finn Skovgaard (X) : VAT discussed in the question phrase only concerns VAT in the home country. Then they explain that you can'd deduct Swiss VAT at home, but that they will recover it for you in Switzerland//An EU business can recover VAT in another EU country the same way.
10 mins
Thanks Finn. In my earlier comment I meant that an EU business would not charge VAT to a business in another EU country but, as we're talking about travel expenses and the like here, you're right of course.
agree cmwilliams (X)
12 mins
Thanks.
agree Assimina Vavoula
2 hrs
Thanks.
agree Jean-Claude Gouin
8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, David."
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6 mins
French term (edited): vous pouvez d�duire les frais de la TVA pay�s sur vos propres ventes

.....on your own sales

Hi Charlotte. What they are explaining is that, when one sells goods (out of the UK - or "your own country"), one can deduct the VAT because it is being exported. However, they explain, that in Switzerland one can only do this if one is actually registered for VAT (TVA) purposes. So, yes, it is on "sales".
Peer comment(s):

disagree Finn Skovgaard (X) : In the case of exported goods, it is the buyer abroad who collects VAT when he sells them on. The exporter simply does not collect VAT on exports, so there is nothing to deduct. Anyway, this question does not concern export.
24 mins
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19 hrs
French term (edited): vous pouvez d�duire les frais de la TVA pay�s sur vos propres ventes

You can set off the cost of VAT against your own sales

VAT paid by Swiss companies on expenses incurred in countries where there is VAT can set off the amount concerned in the same way as they owuld any other expense.
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