arc d'erreur

English translation: error handling progam arc

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French term or phrase:	arc d\'erreur
English translation:	error handling progam arc
Entered by:	Louisa Tchaicha

05:55 Dec 27, 2012

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Computers: Software / calculateur de contrôle

French term or phrase: arc d'erreur

Hi,

"Il est important de noter que l’arborescence est créée en tenant compte de la logique de structuration du programme. Cela à l’avantage, par rapport à une mise à plat purement logique de limiter substantiellement la complexité de l’arborescence. Si, par exemple, avant la division, le programme possède un test de diviseur différent de zéro, l’arc d’erreur correspondant à la division par zéro ne sera pas généré, ou pourra être supprimé, car « impossible » à emprunter."

Thanks!

Louisa Tchaicha KudoZ activity Questions: 1238 (8 open) (5 without valid answers) (56 closed without grading) Answers: 145 Tunisia
Local time: 11:19

error (handling) routine

Explanation:
another suggestion - a guess, really

I was thinking of the reason for "arc" instead of "chemin."

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Note added at 1 day17 hrs (2012-12-28 23:45:57 GMT)
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"Error handling path" is another possibility.

Restarting job sequences - IBM - United States
This is to ensure that stages in the error handling path will not be skipped if the job is restarted and another error is encountered. Parent topic: Building job sequences.
publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iisinfsv/v8r5/topic/... - Cached

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Note added at 3 days3 hrs (2012-12-30 09:19:25 GMT)
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After seeing the "pointer" question, I have another idea for arc.

I suggest you translate "arc" as "program arc" and then just qualify the arc as needed. Here then it would be "error handling program arc." If that's too confusing, then some variation of it: "program arc related to the error handling."

Selected response from:

veratek
Brazil
Local time: 07:19

Grading comment

Thank you all for your helpful ideas and suggestions. Veratek: I will translate, as you suggested "arc" by "program arc", and "error handling program arc" by "arc d'erreur'. Just great, thanks a bunch :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

error branch

Terry Richards

4 +1

(run-time) error handling branch

Daryo

error path

cc in nyc

4 -1

error curve

B D Finch

error (handling) routine

veratek

4 -2

Error graph

Salih YILDIRIM

Discussion entries: 6

veratek

Brazil

@Daryo

07:06 Dec 29, 2012

"The Invisible Web is 500 to 1,000 times the size of the Surface Web."

Thanks for that tidbit. When you think about it, it's not surprising at all - and it should have prompted someone somewhere to have devised a much more robust, if slower, global web search engine. The problem today with that invisibility is that people do a quick online search and if they don't find a particular word or definition in wikipedia (of all sources!), they claim that it's proof it doesn't exist. Same with the free, but very non-specialized dictionaries available on the Web containing mostly simple definitions of words.

Daryo

United Kingdom

@ cc in nyc

01:13 Dec 29, 2012

the bit I was referring to is: "I didn't find any entries for "error arc" - entries in dictionaries or other sources like the Web; anyway, if you do a search on "arc d'erreur" you only get 41 ghits, all related to "arc d'angle" in astronomy - nothing / zilch / nada related to algorithms.
Just found something quite interesting: "The Invisible Web is 500 to 1,000 times the size of the Surface Web." [http://academics.smcvt.edu/sburks/definition_search_engine.h...] - I didn't expect that proportion!

cc in nyc

@ Daryo

14:05 Dec 28, 2012

I read Louisa's Discussion entry to mean that "arc d'erreur" only occurs once in the text that she is translating. (veratek's question was "Does it appear elsewhere in the text or just in this paragraph?") ;-)

Daryo

United Kingdom

@ Louisa.S

12:18 Dec 28, 2012

this is the only occurence of "arc d'erreur" - not a problem if you understand the subject matter, and have enough context.
Also "the only occurence" is strictly speaking not correct - what you mean is "the only occurence in the directly accessible and searchable part of the Internet". [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_Web] ; the Web is about 20 years old, no more - you can find a lot but NOT everything.

Louisa Tchaicha

Tunisia

ASKER

@Veratek

08:44 Dec 27, 2012

Hi,
No I only have "arc d'erreur" (I do have "chemin" but not d'erreur), I didn't find any entries for "error arc"...
No , this is the only occurence of "arc d'erreur"

veratek

Brazil

@Louisa

08:41 Dec 27, 2012

"tahnk you but wouldn't that be a translation of "chemin d'erreur"?"

So the text talks about "chemin d'erreur" and "arc d'erreur" as two different things? Or you can't tell? Does it appear elsewhere in the text or just in this paragraph?

Answers

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

error curve

Explanation:
www.freepatentsonline.com/3611278.html
"VN is iterated through successive values to generate an error curve and the minimum in this curve is located by a Newtonian iteration ..."

ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/.../19730062782_1973062782.pd... - United States
" ... such as multiplying a variable by reference voltage, to generate an error curve for the multiplier)."

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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-12-27 09:16:13 GMT)
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As this 2D representation seems to be a graph, the correct term is likely to be "curve".

B D Finch
France
Local time: 12:19
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you

7 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

Error graph

Explanation:
Alternate!

Salih YILDIRIM
United States
Local time: 06:19
Native speaker of:

Turkish

10 hrs confidence:

error branch

Explanation:
They are pruning the tree of branches that cannot be executed.

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This talk of pruning is a bit off the subject as it doesn't directly relate to the term being asked. However, it is standard com-sci concept to represent a programme as a decision tree and to talk about pruning the tree when you remove sections of code that cannot be executed. It doesn't matter whether the tree is pruned before or after it is created, the same term is used for both. In effect, you are pruning a virtual tree in that the branch may never have existed as actual code but it could have existed so, in a certain sense, it does exist even if only in the programmer's mind. The tree is an anology for the programme and it is never wise to push an analogy too far!

If you look over my Kudoz answers, you will see that I very rarely use a 5 confidence level as I have in this case. There is absolutely no question in my mind.

Terry Richards
France
Local time: 12:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 58

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

veratek: I think you are right. But now Daryo's answer is clearer.

15 hrs

neutral

cc in nyc: It's a nice image for the tree, but it seems to me that they are building the tree, not pruning it – "l’arborescence est créée..." // IMO, this text is much too precise to confuse creating and pruning.

16 hrs

-> Well yes, but they are "pruning" the tree by not creating certain branches in the first place which has the same result as creating them and then removing them//This is standard com-sci language see my note.

disagree

Daryo: it's a branch that could be executed - nothing wrong with its coding but will never be executed because that case will never occur -- not the same as having a branch that cannot be executed (badly written, leading to run-time errors)

19 hrs

1 day 6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

(run-time) error handling branch

Explanation:
"Si, par exemple, avant la division, le programme possède un test de diviseur différent de zéro, l’arc d’erreur correspondant à la division par zéro ne sera pas généré, ou pourra être supprimé, car « impossible » à emprunter."

"There's nothing wrong with this branch (no coding errors in it) - the only reason to get rid of that branch is because it will never be used.
The branch itself is dealing with a possible run-time error ("division by zero").

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:19
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 11

21 mins confidence:

error path

Explanation:
The error path corresponding to division by zero...

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@ Louisa: If "arc" is the term that you have been using consistently throughout, then perhaps you should stick with it. But I think that the simple meaning here is "error path" and 'error arc" sound like a stretch to my ear. But clearly, from the questions that you've been posting, the paper that you're translating doesn't miss a trick at vamping the rhetorical register. So I leave it to you (of course). ;-)

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-12-27 07:05:28 GMT)
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"sounds" (typo)

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Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2012-12-28 16:56:16 GMT)
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Now convinced that the author is using terms with very precise meanings, I'm less confident that "arc d'erreur" should be translated as "error path" – especially since the source term only occurs once in the text.

Maybe "error trajectory"? But I'm not convinced of that either, since the author might have used "trajectories" (but chose not to do so).

So do we then use "error arc," in order to stay as close as possible to the French? I'm hesitate to suggest that because it doesn't sound idiomatic in English (virtually no ghits)... But you have the complete text in front of you and can probably judge better than we can.

But sometimes when the French is a real challenge, the best solution is to stay as close to it as possible. ;-)

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Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2012-12-28 16:57:45 GMT)
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Bottom line: I'm at a loss for this one. :-(

cc in nyc
Local time: 06:19
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 75

Notes to answerer

Asker: tahnk you but wouldn't that be a translation of "chemin d'erreur"? I've translated "arc" by "arc"..

Asker: Yes it certainly sounds odd but I think I might just use it just to keep it literal. And, there are hardly any real occurences on the surface web :)

3 hrs confidence:

error (handling) routine

veratek
Brazil
Local time: 07:19
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 34

Grading comment

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you

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