postes en 5x8

22:11 Aug 6, 2018
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French to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Economics
French term or phrase: postes en 5x8
This is a report on the activities in France of an international glass-manufacturing company.

"Il y a eu des difficultés à recruter, soit locales, soit liées à la difficulté des ***postes en 5X8*** mise en avant par les jeunes générations."

I'm aware that there is a work scheduling system called "5x8" but not sure how to render this in English.
TIA
Wyley Powell
Canada
Local time: 21:41


Summary of answers provided
4 +4"6 on, 4 off" rota // shift pattern "2 early shifts, 2 late shifts, 2 night shifts, 4 days off"
Daryo
3 +15x8 teamwork
Odette Grille
4 -1rotating shift work [explain if necessary]
William A McNab


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
5x8 teamwork


Explanation:
There may be a more idiomatic expression

Odette Grille
Canada
Local time: 21:41
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Although in FR we speak of 'équipes', in EN this type of work organization is usually referred to as shiftwork.
4 hrs
  -> Yes, thank you Tony

agree  GILOU
5 hrs
  -> Merci

neutral  Daryo: this will be probably as much puzzling for those who know nothing about shiftwork as it will be for those who do.
22 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
rotating shift work [explain if necessary]


Explanation:
As the only one with the wider context, I'd suggest it is up to you to determine how much precision is required here. I understand 5x8 to be 5 teams working continuously rotating 8-hour shifts (see wikipedia reference below). If you believe this detail is important, then explain it.


    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_%C3%97_8
William A McNab
New Zealand
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: as it happens, this is a particularly nasty pattern (compared to other more usual shift patterns), bound to completely disorientate in time people working like this - so precision should be important ...
1 hr

disagree  Tony M: The detail of this particular shift patter, as Daryo says, is the whole crux of the matter here and certainly does need to be stated.
2 hrs

agree  Odette Grille
10 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
"6 on, 4 off" rota // shift pattern "2 early shifts, 2 late shifts, 2 night shifts, 4 days off"


Explanation:
or

shift pattern "5 teams in 3 x 8 hour shifts"


Les 15,5 ou cinq-huit' sont un système d'organisation d'horaires de travail en travail posté qui consiste à faire tourner par roulement de huit heures consécutives cinq équipes sur un même poste, afin d'assurer un fonctionnement continu sur les 24 h d'une journée, y compris le week-end. Les équipes changent de tranche horaire tous les deux jours, sauf l'équipe de repos, qui y reste quatre jours consécutifs.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_×_8


strangely enough, that's in fact the shift pattern used by the British police forces:

10-day shift plans
The 6 on, 4 off plan is commonly used in British police forces. The pattern worked consists of 2 early shifts, 2 late shifts, 2 night shifts and 4 days off. Shifts last 9-10 hours, creating some overlap between the 5 teams.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_plan#10-day_shift_plans


more

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_work

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travail_posté

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_x_8

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_×_8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_plan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_shift

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Note added at 5 hrs (2018-08-07 03:17:52 GMT)
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this a quoted in the ST as one of the reasons why there are very few takers on some job offers, so "details" are important.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2018-08-07 21:55:37 GMT)
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"5 teams in 3 rotating 8 hour shifts" ?

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Absolutely — and it's easy to see why people would not like this shift pattern, which precludes any kind of "normal" social life! 3-8 is bad enough... / I think your "10-day shift plan" might also be a good way of expressing it.
1 hr
  -> Thanks!

agree  Charles Davis: I'd be inclined to add "rotating" for clarity, since although the British police's "6 on, 4 off" is in fact a rotating pattern (2 mornings, 2 afternoons, 2 nights, 4 days off), the term doesn't make this explicit. Then you don't have to list the pattern.
5 hrs
  -> what is really peculiar with this pattern is that the start time is shifted every 2 days, usually the start time is the same for 4 days, or a whole week. Thanks!

agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Convincing, yes. I erroneousy thought it mean 5-day week, 8-hours a day. I think that a descriptive "5 teams working in 8-hour rotating shift" would be clearer. Or "5-team 8-hour shiftwork" basis.
6 hrs
  -> Agree on that - you probably need some kind of more detailed description - not everyone is familiar with shift patterns, especially the less usual ones. Thanks!

agree  Yolanda Broad
9 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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